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Traitors '25 Starts 1/1/25 8pm

Last 2 - whoever goes first has lost, guaranteed. It's now a game of chicken.
I don't think this is true, if you're allowed to shuffle them, out of sight.

Person who goes first holding the life card, then shuffles the pair: 50% of loss on the other person's turn.

Person who goes first not holding the life card: 50% chance of gaining it. Then, if having gained it and shuffled them, 50% chance of loss again. So 25% chance of victory.

Then the inverse...

Person who waits, holding the life card: 25%.

Person who waits, not holding the life card, also 50%.

So whoever has the card should go first.
 
I don't think this is true, if you're allowed to shuffle them, out of sight.

Person who goes first holding the life card, then shuffles the pair: 50% of loss on the other person's turn.

Person who goes first not holding the life card: 50% chance of gaining it. Then, if having gained it and shuffled them, 50% chance of loss again. So 25% chance of victory.

Then the inverse...

Person who waits, holding the life card: 25%.

Person who waits, not holding the life card, also 50%.

So whoever has the card should go first.
That's a big "if" in play though. Without it, player 1 gives away a death card and player 2 knows that they either (a) hold the life card already, (b) just gave it away or (c) it must be player 1's other card.
 
One of the best bits from last night was that obviously some of them complained about that gunk getting in their eyes so they just started pouring it on their back instead. Shame, because I actually enjoyed that mission up to that point.

The other highlight was the incredible, chewing-the-scenery acting from Linda and somehow her still surviving. It's impossible, I know, but I want her to win now. Or at least get to the final so we can see the full range of emotions she can do.
 
That's a big "if" in play though. Without it, player 1 gives away a death card and player 2 knows that they either (a) hold the life card already, (b) just gave it away or (c) it must be player 1's other card.
One card face down each, toss a coin to see who looks. They then say if they want to keep it, the other gets the choice of a blind swap.

That’s the fair way to do it, and brings in the element of bluff that fits the game.

Would be better with carrots though.
 
The other highlight was the incredible, chewing-the-scenery acting from Linda and somehow her still surviving. It's impossible, I know, but I want her to win now. Or at least get to the final so we can see the full range of emotions she can do.
She only survived last night because of Treaclegate. The herd madness that descends when there’s non-evidence fully explains witch trials.
 
Sorry, I should have probably said Chase The Ace, which is what it’s called when you don’t smack the loser’s hand with the deck of cards.

(I have not played this since being 13)

Leon fucked himself in the death cards game by volunteering so quickly to go first. The only reason to do that would be to protect the life card and obviously that would be the one he kept. Fozia took it from him and Alex took it from her. The last player was always going to win.
 
Dan is both right and wrong. Yes, it is about winning but a lot of the tasks involve teamwork and for the Traitors, they're an opportunity to fool people into trusting them (like when Paul put himself in the dungeon, although that backfired horribly).

I wonder now how much of Minah going berserk at Dan was her genuinely being angry about her hair (because she straightens it and getting the gunk out and having to straighten it again must have been a nightmare), and how much of it was her trying to save Linda's useless arse. I'm puzzled why Frankie was so upset though - am I missing something? What was the purpose of the gunge task?
 
I wonder now how much of Minah going berserk at Dan was her genuinely being angry about her hair (because she straightens it and getting the gunk out and having to straighten it again must have been a nightmare), and how much of it was her trying to save Linda's useless arse.
She was genuinely annoyed. Probably for the reasons you say. But she definitely also spotted the opportunity it gave her to deflect from Linda. I thought she’d overplayed it a bit to be honest. But it was magnificent. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Frankie, no idea. I think she was just caught up in the drama and wanted some of it.
 
Just caught up with all the episodes. God this group are a bit rubbish. I was warming to Dan personally but his individualist tactics were gonna mark him out. It's not the right way to play the game as a faithful, and continuing to lie when a number of people were taking it so personally really marked him out. I think the producers have really tried to make games that split the group up this season and his approach totally amplified that.

I think Minah is great at the interpersonal gameplay, but they shouldn't have tried to recruit Anna, and killing off Livi was also silly - she was such a bad faithful and was really helping to turn various faithfuls against one another (very funny on uncloaked when she said she was a threat to the traitors!). I wonder if her tactics are slipping.

Linda is a muppet, can't believe she's still in it. I like the idea that people just think 'oh that's what Linda is like' now so aren't voting for her.

Love Charlotte's Welsh lie. Can't believe people still haven't spotted it.

Lisa's vicar thing is hilarious. Priests lie all the time, why does she think it works in her favour??

Reckon Alex is gonna start getting a lot of heat. They've not really been in the game much and done well to keep their head down, but that's gonna start to be noticeable.

Joe the teacher is a total prick. But reckon he'll go far cos he's a follower and the traitors will keep him in.
 
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