The stupidity of the anti-vaxx nutcases

[hitmouse]

I hate reasonable sounding conclusions. Proper boil my piss, they do.

 

[rekil]

Imagine he was screaming about voices in his head when he did this. Would so many of you be laughing then? Clearly this is a case of someone suffering from a serious psychological disorder, not just a 'loon' to be made fun of.

Some of you need to log off the internet and take look at yourself. The antivax angle on this story is most likely incidental to the events. Mental illness tends to manifest itself in a context dependent way, and if it wasn't for there being a pandemic his delusions would have taken some other form.

There is a real person in this story. Most likely with family and friends who love him.

So you'd agree with no nonsense persecution of antisocial 24/7 loons whose latest mission is to sabotage public health efforts and get people killed while rinsing vulnerable people, possibly like this fucker, for clicks and cash?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

So you'd agree with no nonsense persecution of antisocial 24/7 loons whose latest mission is to sabotage public health efforts and get people killed while rinsing vulnerable people, possibly like this fucker, for clicks and cash?

What?

 

[rekil]

I thought not.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

I thought not.

I've literally no idea what your waffling on about or how that connects to my original post.

 

[Ĝasper]

I hate reasonable sounding conclusions. Proper boil my piss, they do

If a writer open the argument with a "stupid authoritarian covid passports" headline, and an intro for 'failing to oppose new [reasonably sounding] health measures', then we'd expect the conclusions to follow. It's incoherent, and the last thing the reader sees, unless they just skim read the prolix and skip to the end.

 

[Ming]

With people prone to ideas of reference you tend to see increases in similar presentations when something becomes dominant in the public sphere. After 9/11 we got a lot more people on the wards thinking they were Muhammad rather than Jesus. When Twilight was popular we got an increase in vampires. I suppose Covid is creating a similar situation.

 

[Humberto]

Everything is a con now though, i.e. I don't watch much telly but when I do someone is always trying to clickbait/amaze/intrigue you for profit. Sorry this remark is about 25% finished and probably flawed.

 

[hitmouse]

If a writer open the argument with a "stupid authoritarian covid passports" headline, and an intro for 'failing to oppose new [reasonably sounding] health measures', then we'd expect the conclusions to follow. It's incoherent, and the last thing the reader sees, unless they just skim read the prolix and skip to the end.

Say what you like about the tenets of James Meadway's article, at least it's an argument. Which is more than I'm actually getting from you.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Everything is a con now though, i.e. I don't watch much telly but when I do someone is always trying to clickbait/amaze/intrigue you for profit. Sorry this remark is about 25% finished and probably flawed.

It does seem so sometimes. They don't even limit it to tv. My mother gets multiple scam calls a day. It's to the point that she won't answer the phone. I feel that not only are they trying to "clickbait/amaze/intrigue you for profit", when that fails, they'll harass/stalk/browbeat you into giving in.

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

I've literally no idea what your waffling on about or how that connects to my original post.

I'll translate:
Would you agree that the grifters who make a shit ton of money pushing up the lies that lead to this person setting themselves on fire should be hunted down and shot (or tortured viciously for a very long time as my preferred option)?

 

[petee]

yeah, sorry, another one

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Darwinism in action.

 

[Humberto]

It does seem so sometimes. They don't even limit it to tv. My mother gets multiple scam calls a day. It's to the point that she won't answer the phone. I feel that not only are they trying to "clickbait/amaze/intrigue you for profit", when that fails, they'll harass/stalk/browbeat you into giving in.

It's harassment. A race to the bottom of a dog eat dog attritional, break you down into relinquishing your money business model. As with a lot of cynical people it's a 'someone else will be in line to take advantage if we do not' mentality.

We used to get a lot of calls (usually a couple of times a day) on the landline. They try to straight up con people. In an era of wages effectively stagnating or falling for many, they basically set out to ruin people. e.g. When loansharking practices were in the news a lot (or 'pay day lenders' as they have been called here) their exorbitant loans were aggressively marketed and targeted, ditto the online gambling boom which came amidst brutal austerity (which hasn't accomplished anything anyway). But they want you to struggle or borrow to cover it. Student debt; didn't use to be a thing, food banks, exorbitant rents and on it goes.

Bit of a ramble. Blair is a cunt. You've plenty of your own.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

I'll translate:
Would you agree that the grifters who make a shit ton of money pushing up the lies that lead to this person setting themselves on fire should be hunted down and shot (or tortured viciously for a very long time as my preferred option)?

No, I don't agree

 

[rekil]

Victory to Totnes.

Anti-vax event axed after outrage

The event organised by New World Alliance was billed as an opportunity to 'come and discover the truth'

www.devonlive.com

An alleged anti-vaccine conference has been cancelled at Totnes Civic Hall following mounting opposition from local residents that the venue was being used to host a controversial event.

New World Alliance had booked the hall for its first conference, The Awakening Conference - Breaking the Spell, on November 20, from 3pm to 10pm.

It was billed as an event to 'come and discover the truth', with speakers including Dr Zac Cox, of World Doctors Alliance, Anna de Buisseret, lawyer and former British military officer, on the legality of the injections, and Prof Dolores Cahill PhD, scientist – immunologist/ molecular biologist.

Patrick Henningsen - Beeley pal and promoter of Kollerstrom's holocaust denial and every other branch of conspiraloonery - was involved in this. They ended up holding it online instead.

 

[PR1Berske]

Anna de Buisseret has been brought up before. Here she is arguing that a case (subsequently overturned) about consent for specific treatment also extends to Covid vaccinations, somehow.

Redirect Notice

www.google.com

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Imagine he was screaming about voices in his head when he did this. Would so many of you be laughing then? Clearly this is a case of someone suffering from a serious psychological disorder, not just a 'loon' to be made fun of.

Some of you need to log off the internet and take look at yourself. The antivax angle on this story is most likely incidental to the events. Mental illness tends to manifest itself in a context dependent way, and if it wasn't for there being a pandemic his delusions would have taken some other form.

There is a real person in this story. Most likely with family and friends who love him.

Actually I agree with this. Spot on. And laughing at these people like this is probably counter productive too, I've done it myself but it's wrong.

 

[NoXion]

Imagine he was screaming about voices in his head when he did this. Would so many of you be laughing then? Clearly this is a case of someone suffering from a serious psychological disorder, not just a 'loon' to be made fun of.

Some of you need to log off the internet and take look at yourself. The antivax angle on this story is most likely incidental to the events. Mental illness tends to manifest itself in a context dependent way, and if it wasn't for there being a pandemic his delusions would have taken some other form.

There is a real person in this story. Most likely with family and friends who love him.

Are you a qualified psychiatrist? Did you know this person? No? I didn't think so.

You don't have to be mentally ill in order to set yourself on fire. You just have to believe strongly enough that doing so will help a cause you believe in. Or do you think that Thích Quảng Đức (and those who followed his example) was also a head case?

 

[petee]

Are you a qualified psychiatrist? Did you know this person? No? I didn't think so.

You don't have to be mentally ill in order to set yourself on fire. You just have to believe strongly enough that doing so will help a cause you believe in. Or do you think that Thích Quảng Đức (and those who followed his example) was also a head case?

right.
for us in the states, Norman Morrison - Wikipedia (i'm just old enough to remember it happening).
in a sense any such act is insane, but morrison was quite sane when he did it.

 

[LDC]

Are you a qualified psychiatrist? Did you know this person? No? I didn't think so.

You don't have to be mentally ill in order to set yourself on fire. You just have to believe strongly enough that doing so will help a cause you believe in. Or do you think that Thích Quảng Đức (and those who followed his example) was also a head case?

They got pissed off about the comments on that. But never a bad word to say about anti-vaxxers attacking NHS workers, or disrupting the care of patients, or hassling children outside their schools.

 

[rekil]

They got pissed off about the comments on that. But never a bad word to say about anti-vaxxers attacking NHS workers, or disrupting the care of patients, or hassling children outside their schools.

It's almost as if it's just a bit of concern trolling by a disingenuous loon.

 

[spring-peeper]

Shame of all of them!!!!

Trudeau calls Sunwing flight party a ‘slap in the face’ amid Omicron surge | Globalnews.ca

Videos of the flight shared on social media show passengers of the Sunwing flight maskless as they use vapes, pass around vodka and sing and dance in the aisles.

globalnews.ca

Sunwing Airlines has cancelled the return flight for a group of Quebecers who partied maskless on a chartered flight from Montreal to Cancun on Dec. 30.

In a series of now-deleted videos on social media obtained by the Journal de Montreal, passengers were seen drinking alcohol, vaping, and partying in close proximity.

Passengers included Quebec social media influencers and reality TV stars

Quebec reality TV stars deny partying on Sunwing flight, say 'we were sleeping'

Some of the Quebec social media stars stranded in Mexico this week after a now-infamous 'party flight' say they've been unfairly condemned. 'We were sleeping' for the whole flight, said one reality TV personality.

montreal.ctvnews.ca

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

The absolute state of some on this thread

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Fucking sort yourself out you heartless bastards

 

[Dogsauce]

Can we strand a load of our social media influencers and reality TV stars in Mexico too? Doesn’t sound like a bad outcome to me.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Fucking sort yourself out you heartless bastards

You mean for condemning folk for attacking vaccine centres and whatnot? Surely they're the heartless bastards?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

You mean for condemning folk for attacking vaccine centres and whatnot? Surely they're the heartless bastards?

No, for mocking a person who was clearly is mentally unwell. You know this. Stop pretending

 

[Magnus McGinty]

No, for mocking a person who was clearly is mentally unwell. You know this. Stop pretending

I haven't mocked anyone who is mentally unwell.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

They got pissed off about the comments on that. But never a bad word to say about anti-vaxxers attacking NHS workers, or disrupting the care of patients, or hassling children outside their schools.

I didn't think the comments about "persecuting" and "torturing" people dignified a response. As if it needed saying that these protesters need to face the law. But I won't take part in the weird fantasizing about other people's pain that appears to be so popular round here recently.