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The stupidity of the anti-vaxx nutcases

In other news, attendees at some far-right freedom shindig are all coming down with symptoms, but are claiming that they’re victims of an anthrax attack by left-wing terrorists rather than face the truth of their own stupidity.

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I mean we shouldn’t laugh, but then, looking at it another way, we really really should.
 
Now, I’m not trying to say they’re all as thick as pigshit, but, you know, they’re all as thick as pigshit.

I liked this bit :-

Lawyer Adam Wagner, a human rights expert and commentator on Covid legislation, poured scorn on the anti-vaccination protesters’ claims of using the law. (…j He said people who believed these documents had a basis in law might as well be “dressing up as Professor Dumbledore and saying magical spells”.
 
Now, I’m not trying to say they’re all as thick as pigshit, but, you know, they’re all as thick as pigshit.

[An actual lawyer] said people who believed these documents had a basis in law might as well be “dressing up as Professor Dumbledore and saying magical spells”.
🤣
 
Now, I’m not trying to say they’re all as thick as pigshit, but, you know, they’re all as thick as pigshit.

love the fact that they co-opt extremely complex disciplines, law, medicine, and then just bowl around acting like "experts". can you imagine them coming up against any lawyer, let alone a half decent one, anywhere? i'd pay for hte live stream.
 
defintely a fan of the ridicule angle. it might drive them deeper (lost already?), but it will create an atmosphere that might prevent more people sliding down the rabit holes
Don't fall for the evil/pedophiliac/big government/hi-tech industry trying to ridicule us trick please.
Read the (correct version of ) the magna carta and rejoice in your freedom.
 
defintely a fan of the ridicule angle. it might drive them deeper (lost already?), but it will create an atmosphere that might prevent more people sliding down the rabit holes

I’ve heard people say you shouldn’t do this, you’ll never convert them that way etc. and whilst that’s probably true I am beyond giving a fuck anymore about reasoning with them and ridicule them every single time. I’ve been banned from Facebook a few times now for calling them all stupid twats…but it’s worth it.
 
The far gone ones are I think immune to any sort of persuasion, although mockery might drive them further into their opinions. It's the other people who are wavering but reading who are important, though.

I'd imagine it's a fine balance between dissuading them from the lunacy by mocking the loons and making them a bit loon-sympthetic by looking too arrogant.
 
I thought these were good. The narrative of collective and individuals.

1. A Fascist Wedge – the Anti-Vaxx movement – Phil Hearse


2, Covid and anti-Vaxx - Neil Faulkner
 
Not sure where to put this, but since it's in a similar vein as the articles just posted and it's international (Germany) here ya go...

 
seen the 25th. i didn't try to remove it, it's so stupid that i thought it would do more for the cause leaving it. other, more energetic people had scraped (the same?) stickers off other trash cans tho'.

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Gates is a billionaire cunt. But if you’re a billionaire cunt I would think at least spending some of that fortune on public health is actually,ya know, a “good thing”. But they reverse this. It’s so grim.
 
Sometimes this stuff really gets me down so it's important to remember the loons are very small in number as well as braincells. The vast majority (between 70 - 80% depending on sources and methodology) are on the right side. I'm in favour of being vigilant regarding loon groups and making sure they don't get a free run but it is important we remember we are definitely in the majority by a huge margin. They don't even have much traction among the general unvaxxed population as if they did, their groups would be much bigger.
 
Sometimes this stuff really gets me down so it's important to remember the loons are very small in number as well as braincells. The vast majority (between 70 - 80% depending on sources and methodology) are on the right side. I'm in favour of being vigilant regarding loon groups and making sure they don't get a free run but it is important we remember we are definitely in the majority by a huge margin. They don't even have much traction among the general unvaxxed population as if they did, their groups would be much bigger.

Like I think you say at the end, you can't even go by vaccination levels either, loon levels are even lower than that as there's a chunk of non-vaccinated people that aren't loons but have concerns/objections that are much more understandable and non-loon.

I know 2 unvaccinated people (one completely and one had first jab) and for both it's a high level of health anxiety that's the reason - and the one that had the first jab has convinced themselves they had a really bad reaction as a result of the jab (the reality is much more complex than that).
 
Sometimes this stuff really gets me down so it's important to remember the loons are very small in number as well as braincells. The vast majority (between 70 - 80% depending on sources and methodology) are on the right side. I'm in favour of being vigilant regarding loon groups and making sure they don't get a free run but it is important we remember we are definitely in the majority by a huge margin. They don't even have much traction among the general unvaxxed population as if they did, their groups would be much bigger.
I think there is still a fair proportion who are anti-lockdown or opposed to vaccine passports, many of which come at it from a self-interested perspective rather than having some kind of loony shit underpinning it all. It‘s fairly mainstream view and has the tacit support of much of the press and a good chunk of MPs, often codified by talking about the economy or faking concern about vulnerable groups who can’t wear masks or find it tough isolating.
 
I've lately come solidly back to Wakefield in laying the foundation for all this.
Just like the recent awful invermectin Meta study.
People I encounter bandy "scientific papers" and "scientists speaking the truth" around like fetishes - however ridiculous - if it fits their prejudices ...

 
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Sometimes this stuff really gets me down so it's important to remember the loons are very small in number as well as braincells. The vast majority (between 70 - 80% depending on sources and methodology) are on the right side. I'm in favour of being vigilant regarding loon groups and making sure they don't get a free run but it is important we remember we are definitely in the majority by a huge margin. They don't even have much traction among the general unvaxxed population as if they did, their groups would be much bigger.
yeh

the interesting bit will be if/when they move onto somethign else if/when covid starts to receede. a lot of them, and i am not exagerating, from wha ti have seen spending a few months looking in on their groups back at the start, see this as somethign spiritual, like a conversion. "now that i am awake", etc. they talk and act like they have gone through a religious conversion. they've actually been spiritually abused in my view from right wing grifters, quacks, and other lunatics out for the likes. but they don't have the self awareness to see this.
 
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history will be the judge. can see historian in a 100 years time..."and there were those, thrown into the margins by powerful algorithyms, meme-based conspiracies, and grifters making fortunes, who thought they knew better than all the medical fields."

imagine being that foot note in history? yes, grandson, i was one of those twats.
 
I've lately come solidly back to Wakefield in laying the foundation for all this.
Just like the recent awful invermectin Meta study.
People I encounter bandy "scientific papers" and "scientists speaking the truth" around like fetishes - however ridiculous - if it fits their prejudices ...


I'll get and watch this one, but the HBomberguy take-down of Wakefield is really interesting. I have posted the link before, but I can again :)
There is no science in his paper, it's opinions and then Wakefield even made some of them up too.
It's shocking. Especially where he gave kids unnecessary colonoscopies and in another instance took children's blood samples at a birthday party and gave them a fiver for it. He then himself joked about this and then in another interview told the interviewer it wasn't unethical it just hadn't been cleared by the ethics committee.
 
I've lately come solidly back to Wakefield in laying the foundation for all this.
Just like the recent awful invermectin Meta study.
People I encounter bandy "scientific papers" and "scientists speaking the truth" around like fetishes - however ridiculous - if it fits their prejudices ...


one of the worst human beings alive. still slithers around anti vax shows etc.
 
I'll get and watch this one, but the HBomberguy take-down of Wakefield is really interesting. I have posted the link before, but I can again :)
There is no science in his paper, it's opinions and then Wakefield even made some of them up too.
It's shocking. Especially where he gave kids unnecessary colonoscopies and in another instance took children's blood samples at a birthday party and gave them a fiver for it. He then himself joked about this and then in another interview told the interviewer it wasn't unethical it just hadn't been cleared by the ethics committee.
Yes I watched that one at the time you posted it - and recently.
This one is disarming and I've been spamming it like mad.
There's an otherwise very reasonable chatter on Paltalk who is 100 percent entrenched - perhaps he has an autistic grandchild and uses this as a "cause" to hang onto ...
 
history will be the judge. can see historian in a 100 years time..."and there were those, thrown into the margins by powerful algorithyms, meme-based conspiracies, and grifters making fortunes, who thought they knew better than all the medical fields."

imagine being that foot note in history? yes, grandson, i was one of those twats.
mind you will probably be in tier 987 by then with variant Eddie The Eagle
 
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