the sir jimmy savile obe thread
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The trials did start today though. That's how the court calendars were set up yonks ago.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
That was for Elbows, really
elbows
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That was for Elbows, really
Dont bloody start. I get so pissed of on twitter when people start going on about how all the celebrity arrests are just a smokescreen to shield politicians, as if the pain caused to victims is somehow of a different magnitude.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I'm going to be boring here and point out that not all of the accused (accuseds?) are up before the beak on noncery charges - Travis's youngest alleged victim, for one, was 14. Which, while it is still a nasty and serious allegation, doesn't really count as noncery. The allegations against Roach regard offences against females as young as 11, which is definitely edging into noncery, true, while some of those against Harris relate to a seven year old, which is back-of-the-net noncery.
Just so we've got our facts straight.
Can I suggest "Perv Tuesday", instead?
ETA: although, actually, I like Yewtree Tuesday better - more assonance, and echoes of that popular beat combo The Rolling Stones' "Ruby Tuesday". Yer honour.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
just for once i'd like to see someone have the courage of their convictions and for them to say 'apologies if no offence was taken; it was intended'.Was meant to be a gentle gibe, but apologies if any offence taken; none intended.
comrade spurski
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You really are a good for fuck all smart arse wank stain on the blanket of life aint you?
What the fuck is wrong with you ?
Why the fuck are you so fucking bitter you sad prick?
Apologies if no offence was taken ...it was intended
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The last two words of my post.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it might have been intended but throwing afew fucks and a wank into a post is more disappointing than offensive. i thought you had a more extensive vocabulary than that.Apologies if no offence was taken ...it was intended
ruffneck23
front left
Here we go....
Anyway I'm far more bitter than pickmans, don't use that as a reason for conversation you find difficult on your palate ( btw I'm not actually sticking up for you pickmans it's a Tuesday and I'm bored and don't actually have an opinion )
Anyway I'm far more bitter than pickmans, don't use that as a reason for conversation you find difficult on your palate
( btw I'm not actually sticking up for you pickmans it's a Tuesday and I'm bored and don't actually have an opinion )
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I'm going to be boring here and point out that not all of the accused (accuseds?) are up before the beak on noncery charges - Travis's youngest alleged victim, for one, was 14. Which, while it is still a nasty and serious allegation, doesn't really count as noncery. The allegations against Roach regard offences against females as young as 11, which is definitely edging into noncery, true, while some of those against Harris relate to a seven year old, which is back-of-the-net noncery.
Just so we've got our facts straight.
Can I suggest "Perv Tuesday", instead?
ETA: although, actually, I like Yewtree Tuesday better - more assonance, and echoes of that popular beat combo The Rolling Stones' "Ruby Tuesday". Yer honour.
Isn't nonce, (noncery), originally a prison slang term? Surely there's no rigidly defined use for the term is there? I was under the impression that all sorts of sex offenders could be called a nonce inside. Surely under-age, (therefore non-consesual), sex would come under that blanket term for wrong-uns?
comrade spurski
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After a day in school with stroppy cold angry bored kids and an evening with my teen and preteen daughters ignoring me while I did the dinner, washing up and hoovering it was all I could manage!
By the way I was only joking...no offence was intended
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
nonce is old cockney slangto cover all sex criminals but in recent years has been used soley for kiddy diddlers
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Ah, possibly you're right. I'd always just assumed it was a term that was used to describe paedophiles - ie., sexual abusers of pre-pubescent children.
You live and learn
Oh, and underage doesn't mean non-consensual. Sex with a 13 year old or under was always "statutory rape" on the basis that nobody of that age could be regarded as capable of giving consent to sex. 14 and 15 year olds can consent, but having sex with them is still a criminal offence, just not rape - unless, of course, they didn't consent.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yeah, but I'm thinking that, if convicted of the alleged assualt(s), and the "hairy cornflake"
found himself picking up the soap in the showers to claim that 'it was alright, she had pubes' might not be the best defence?DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
SarfLondoner
KenDoddsDadsDogsDead.
A grown man having sex with a 14 year old is a nonce.I'm going to be boring here and point out that not all of the accused (accuseds?) are up before the beak on noncery charges - Travis's youngest alleged victim, for one, was 14. Which, while it is still a nasty and serious allegation, doesn't really count as noncery. The allegations against Roach regard offences against females as young as 11, which is definitely edging into noncery, true, while some of those against Harris relate to a seven year old, which is back-of-the-net noncery.
Just so we've got our facts straight.
Can I suggest "Perv Tuesday", instead?
ETA: although, actually, I like Yewtree Tuesday better - more assonance, and echoes of that popular beat combo The Rolling Stones' "Ruby Tuesday". Yer honour.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Technically, sexually assaulting them....but I agree.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I think we've established that, now, thanks.
Of course, there is still a vicious argument to be had as to what constitutes a "paedophile", but I think I'll leave that one for someone else: I'm tired and have too much marking to do
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
"Sexual activity with a child", I believe. Sexual Offences Act (2003), s. 9(2)
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
...or...noncery.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Aaaaargh!
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I've always found you to be a thoroughly jolly chap, always willing to see the best in everyone and happy to give out splendid advice on the small details of life.
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