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The Rational Proof of God's Existence

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Must be your character, then, I get it, it's cause you get a kick out of annoying people who are better than you, why?
 
Pickman's model said:
how would you explain matthew 19:29? sounds uncommon like usury to me.

incidentally, how come you're apparently entirely ignorant of f w nietzsche?

& if yr so cunting top at theology, how d'you explain the complete absence of a proof of god's existence on this thread, despite the title's assertion?
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Matt 19:29 isn't talking about money, quite obviously. Don't tell me, it'll be the parable of the talents next, won't it? So before you start: its a *parable,* a metaphor. Now let's look at an *historical* event: try Googling "money-changers" and "temple." Can't imagine why you think I'm ignorant of Nietzsche, unless you're taking the piss, like I do with Nino? Well it won't work, do you hear?
 
phildwyer said:
Matt 19:29 isn't talking about money, quite obviously. Don't tell me, it'll be the parable of the talents next, won't it? So before you start: its a *parable,* a metaphor. Now let's look at an *historical* event: try Googling "money-changers" and "temple." Can't imagine why you think I'm ignorant of Nietzsche, unless you're taking the piss, like I do with Nino? Well it won't work, do you hear?
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you didn't recognise a pastiche of a famous passage from the antichrist above - i see no reason to believe that you have any familarity with the great friedrich's other work.
f w nietzsche said:
The Christian concept of a god--the god as the patron of the sick, the god as a spinner of cobwebs, the god as a spirit--is one of the most corrupt concepts that has ever been set up in the world: it probably touches low-water mark in the ebbing evolution of the god-type. God degenerated into the contradiction of life. Instead of being its transfiguration and eternal Yea! In him war is declared on life, on nature, on the will to live! God becomes the formula for every slander upon the "here and now," and for every lie about the "beyond"! In him nothingness is deified, and the will to nothingness is made holy! . . .
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phildwyer said:
Matt 19:29 isn't talking about money, quite obviously. Don't tell me, it'll be the parable of the talents next, won't it? So before you start: its a *parable,* a metaphor. Now let's look at an *historical* event: try Googling "money-changers" and "temple." Can't imagine why you think I'm ignorant of Nietzsche, unless you're taking the piss, like I do with Nino? Well it won't work, do you hear?
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Take the piss with "me"? You really are deluded. :D

Please note the use of italics rather than the *
 
nino_savatte said:
Phil? Better? LOL!!!!!! :D
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And right on cue--this thread's very own court jester. Bad timing though Nino, I have to nip out for a bit. Just carry on though, and I'll chastize you thoroughly when I get back (that *is* what you come here for isn't it...)?
 
Pickman's model said:
there are people who are better than me? :eek:

i don't believe there exist such.
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Well I got not idea why you've got so high an onion of yourself.

Nino, I know you and phil don't appear to like each other, but, well, I don't know. one possible division you can make in people on the boards, or in the theory philosophy section, is those who are trying to achiee something, cause they think it's a good thing to do, and those who mock..
 
phildwyer said:
And right on cue--this thread's very own court jester. Bad timing though Nino, I have to nip out for a bit. Just carry on though, and I'll chastize you thoroughly when I get back (that *is* what you come here for isn't it...)?
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shurely "i'll bore you to tears when i get back (that *is* what you came here for isn't it...)"?
 
phildwyer said:
And right on cue--this thread's very own court jester. Bad timing though Nino, I have to nip out for a bit. Just carry on though, and I'll chastize you thoroughly when I get back (that *is* what you come here for isn't it...)?
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"Right on cue"...that's good phil, I'm becoming better acquainted with your wobbly universe.

I look forward to you *chastising* me when you've finished your cheese steak sub. :D


*Please not the correct spelling of the word 'chastise' here, not the dopey US version
 
Pickman's model said:
you didn't recognise a pastiche of a famous passage from the antichrist above - i see no reason to believe that you have any familarity with the great friedrich's other work.
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Oh, I know The Antichrist alright. One thing you may have noticed about it is that Nietzsche most certainly *believes* in God (for he was no fool), he just *hates* Him. I wonder if you are cut from the same cloth?
 
I know my onions better than you.

It's just a short form of the word it obviously replaced due to a typo that I found moderately entertaining.

Phil, this thread is a waste of time, I reckon, maybe you should abandon it forthwith. Honestly, when was anyone ever convinced of anything they didn't want to be convinced of by rational argument, and the whole thing looks so silly and is so long, that you're hardly going to get outsiders come and read the whole thing to learn something from it.
 
ZWord said:
What?... one what?
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A real talent..

you must be proud.

Eventually you'll be able to use your talent to entertain yourself. I hope you enjoy it.
 
ZWord said:
Phil, this thread is a waste of time, I reckon, maybe you should abandon it forthwith. Honestly, when was anyone ever convinced of anything they didn't want to be convinced of by rational argument, and the whole thing looks so silly and is so long, that you're hardly going to get outsiders come and read the whole thing to learn something from it.
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Just let me be completely serious for a brief moment. I hope it won’t spoil the fun, but I’m off on a 10-day world tour on Friday, so I won’t be contributing here for a while after tomorrow. I’ll admit that I enjoy a verbal scrap more than I probably should, but as Z-word (who has excellent ideas himself) and some others have noticed, my intent on this thread is perfectly sincere. As I mentioned, I’m just completing the final revisions for a book along these lines, and I want it to be as accessible as possible, so I thought I’d try and explain my argument to an audience that I knew would be unsympathetic.

I’ve been a bit surprised at just *how* unthinkingly secular the British Left is, though. There seems to be an automatic assumption that theology is inherently reactionary, which as anyone who knows anything at all about it can tell you, is simply not true. In fact, I believe that this *blind faith* in materialism is the major obstacle to the radical Left’s gaining any significant degree of popular support. Most of you guys seem happy to cede religious discourse to the fundamentalist Right, which may well prove to be a fatal error, not just for the Left but for all humanity. You really, truly, should examine your presuppositions on this matter, and I know that I’ve convinced a few people to do exactly that. OK, serious mood over, back to the flame fest…
 
ZWord said:
Must be your character, then, I get it, it's cause you get a kick out of annoying people who are better than you, why?
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Because envy is the only sin of which the sinner himself is unaware, obvious as it is to others. That's one thing this thread *has* proved.
 
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