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The Rational Proof of God's Existence

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One of my favourites at the mo ... :D

"Jesus Of Suburbia"

[Part 1]

I'm the son of rage and love
The Jesus of suburbia
From the bible of none of the above
On a steady diet of soda pop and Ritalin
No one ever died for my sins in hell
As far as I can tell
At least the ones I got away with

And there's nothing wrong with me
This is how I'm supposed to be
In a land of make believe
That don't believe in me

Get my television fix sitting on my crucifix
The living room or my private womb
While the moms and brads are away
To fall in love and fall in debt
To alcohol and cigarettes and Mary Jane
To keep me insane and doing someone else's cocaine

And there's nothing wrong with me
This is how I'm supposed to be
In a land of make believe
That don't believe in me

[Part 2: City Of The Damned]

At the center of the Earth
In the parking lot
Of the 7-11 were I was taught
The motto was just a lie
It says home is where your heart is
But what a shame
Cause everyone's heart
Doesn't beat the same
It's beating out of time

City of the dead
At the end of another lost highway
Signs misleading to nowhere
City of the damned
Lost children with dirty faces today
No one really seems to care

I read the graffiti
In the bathroom stall
Like the holy scriptures of a shopping mall
And so it seemed to confess
It didn't say much
But it only confirmed that
The center of the earth
Is the end of the world
And I could really care less

City of the dead
At the end of another lost highway
Signs misleading to nowhere
City of the damned
Lost children with dirty faces today
No one really seems to careeeeee

[Part 3: I don't care]

I don't care if you don't
I don't care if you don't
I don't care if you don't care
[x4]

I don't careeeeeeeeee

Everyone is so full of shit
Born and raised by hypocrites
Hearts recycled but never saved
From the cradle to the grave
We are the kids of war and peace
From Anaheim to the middle east
We are the stories and disciples
Of the Jesus of suburbia
Land of make believe
And it don't believe in me
Land of make believe
And I don't believe
And I don't care!
I don't care! [x4]

[Part 4: Dearly beloved]

Dearly beloved are you listening?
I can't remember a word that you were saying
Are we demented or am I disturbed?
The space that's in between insane and insecure
Oh therapy, can you please fill the void?
Am I retarded or am I just overjoyed
Nobody's perfect and I stand accused
For lack of a better word, and that's my best excuse

[Part 5: Tales of another broken home]

To live and not to breathe
Is to die In tragedy
To run, to run away
To find what you believe
And I leave behind
This hurricane of fucking lies
I lost my faith to this
This town that don't exist

So I run
I run away
To the light of masochist
And I leave behind
This hurricane of fucking lies
And I walked this line
A million and one fucking times
But not this time

I don't feel any shame
I won't apologize

When there ain't nowhere you can go
Running away from pain
When you've been victimized
Tales from another broken home

You're leaving...
You're leaving...
You're leaving...
Ah you're leaving home...


Oops :oops: :D
 
phildwyer said:
Greetings Trashpony, good to have you back. We actually have made quite a bit of progress, but you know what the heathen are, they continually try to drag us backwards. Fear not though: the Truth always triumphs in the end. Been anywhere nice? I'm off on a bit of world tour myself next week: Montreal, Cardiff, London, Amsterdam and Istanbul in ten days. No rest for the righteous!

Please don't say 'us' - it implies I'm on your side of the great divide which certainly isn't the case. I'm just waiting to be convinced.

And I've been to Peru which was very nice. Not in a particularly righteous way either.
 
trashpony said:
Please don't say 'us' - it implies I'm on your side of the great divide which certainly isn't the case. I'm just waiting to be convinced.

And I've been to Peru which was very nice. Not in a particularly righteous way either.

Macchu Picchu, or did you go of your own accord?
 
trashpony said:
Please don't say 'us' - it implies I'm on your side of the great divide which certainly isn't the case. I'm just waiting to be convinced.

And I've been to Peru which was very nice. Not in a particularly righteous way either.

Titicaca, or are they still pretty good?
 
trashpony said:
Please don't say 'us' - it implies I'm on your side of the great divide which certainly isn't the case. I'm just waiting to be convinced.

And I've been to Peru which was very nice. Not in a particularly righteous way either.

Nazca, or formula one? You're right, I need a drink.
 
phildwyer said:
Macchu Picchu, or did you go of your own accord?
:confused:

Yes I did go but no one made me go - I walked and wasn't carried or anything.

I went to a couple of other places too.

And this is waaaay off topic.
 
trashpony said:
:confused:

Yes I did go but no one made me go - I walked and wasn't carried or anything.

I went to a couple of other places too.

And this is waaaay off topic.

I went to Macchu Picchu a couple of years ago. Stunning: those Incas weren't daft. Did you walk up the mountain, or take the bus? Cuzco is very nice, but you've got to watch the altitude, that's what did for John Peel.
 
phildwyer said:
I went to Macchu Picchu a couple of years ago. Stunning: those Incas weren't daft. Did you walk up the mountain, or take the bus? Cuzco is very nice, but you've got to watch the altitude, that's what did for John Peel.

I walked the Inca Trail but took good altitude prevention precautions - four days in Cuzco before I started it. I didn't know that's how John Peel died. Wasn't he in Mexico?
 
trashpony said:
I walked the Inca Trail but took good altitude prevention precautions - four days in Cuzco before I started it. I didn't know that's how John Peel died. Wasn't he in Mexico?

No, he was in Cuzco. You mean they haven't got a statue?
 
Mind you, I got altitude sickness--soroche or whatever--in La Paz. Bloody horrible it was, you did well to avoid it. They try to make you drink coca tea, but I couldn't lift the cup to my mouth.
 
phildwyer said:
There is nothing in this world quite as touching as a teenager who has just been exposed to Bob Dylan for the first time. How sweet. Have you read "Catcher in the Rye" yet? Or "On the Road?" We await your continued explorations in adolescent angst with the keenest anticipation.
No need to be a cunt, Phil.
 
i dreamed i stood upon a hill, and, lo!
the godly multitudes walked to and fro
beneath, in sabbath garments fitly clad,
with pious mien, appropriately sad,
while all the church bells made a solemn din --
a fire-alarm to those who lived in sin.
then saw i gazing thoughtfully below,
with tranquil face, upon that holy show
a tall, spare figure in a robe of white,
whose eyes diffused a melancholy light.
"god keep you, stranger," i exclaimed. "you are
no doubt (your habit shows it) from afar;
and yet i entertain the hope that you,
like these good people, are a christian too."
he raised his eyes and with a look so stern
it made me with a thousand blushes burn
replied -- his manner with disdain was spiced:
"what! i a christian? no, indeed! i'm christ."
 
phildwyer said:
Nino, don't you think you're a bit *old* for this sort of thing?

You're not making any sense phil, but that's nothing unusual.

I see you've still not come up with "rational proof of God's existence" yet.

Are you a *Xtian*, phil?
 
Phil, what's with the *s? It makes me feel like you're writing in C. The rest of us have quote marks (two different types!).
 
Ah I see. You're allocating an area of memory twat with a pointer *twat. Don't forget to free up the space when you're done :)
 
Fruitloop said:
Phil, what's with the *s? It makes me feel like you're writing in C. The rest of us have quote marks (two different types!).

He thinks it makes him look sophisticated but it makes him look like a prick.
 
nino_savatte said:
Steal a lot of dinner money at school, phil?

Now we seem to be reaching an explanation of Nino's disorder. Traumatized by his childhood experiences, he now seeks recompence by bullying others. Oh dear, how sad, never mind.
 
nino_savatte said:
He thinks it makes him look sophisticated but it makes him look like a prick.

Still stalking, still haunting, still plaguing this thread with your endless, tedious flaming, Nino? What *are* you doing here?
 
phildwyer's conception of god - god as something to do with value, god as something that can be proved, god as spider - is one of the most corrupt conceptions of the god-type yet arrived at on earth; one might even say it marks the low-water mark in the descending development of the god-type.
 
Pickman's model said:
phildwyer's conception of god - god as something to do with value, god as something that can be proved, god as spider - is one of the most corrupt conceptions of the god-type yet arrived at on earth; one might even say it marks the low-water mark in the descending development of the god-type.

Sorry mate, I can't make any sense of this at all. I'd stick to the Ambrose Bierce if I were you.
 
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