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fattboy said:
'...And We never Punish until We have sent a Messenger '(to give warning)
v.17:15 Qur'an
This has gone far enough.

First you convert the religious text of Islam - Al Qu'ran - into txtspk and then you expect us to accept that you are a British ex-Catholic wahabist revert Salafi.

It really is implausible.

Then you

Use words that wouldn't look out of place on an anti-Islamic neocon website (e.g.'sugarcoating Islam' a la Pipes/Spencer/Horowitz) and you insist that the Shahada is a POLITICAL statement (e.g. as claimed by Al Zahawari and others like him).

Then, when a true scholar of Islam replies to you, you suspect him of being a Shi'a.

You are an implausible being.
 
Some background to the ideas I've shared on here. They come from a growing movement, in the muslim world and beyond, who adhere to idea of The Perennial Philosophy. The belief that Primordial revelation & divine gnosis was adapted providentially to different circumstances in the form of religions. This is where the idea of a transcendent unity comes from.

Or as 12th Century Muslim scholar Ibn Arabi would say "If the believer understood the meaning of the saying 'the colour of the water is the colour of the receptacle', he would admit the validity of all beliefs and he would recognise God in every form and every object of faith." Ibn 'Arabi in Fusûs al-Hikam

A contemporary advocate is Gai Eaton whose book 'King of the castle' is a series of eight essay-like chapters which include society, economics, philosophical anthropology, and religion. The style is intense, dramatic, and ironic verging on sarcasm whenever modernity is addressed.

Other writers are Martin Lings, Frithjof Schuon, Rene Guenon ....

:)

However, I'm sure no one here is remotely interested in any of the above. But it is a fascinating and fast growing development in the upper echelons of the Muslim world
 
invisibleplanet said:
This has gone far enough.

First you convert the religious text of Islam - Al Qu'ran - into txtspk and then you expect us to accept that you are a British ex-Catholic wahabist revert Salafi.

It really is implausible.

Then you

Use words that wouldn't look out of place on an anti-Islamic neocon website (e.g.'sugarcoating Islam' a la Pipes/Spencer/Horowitz) and you insist that the Shahada is a POLITICAL statement (e.g. as claimed by Al Zahawari and others like him).

Then, when a true scholar of Islam replies to you, you suspect him of being a Shi'a.

You are an implausible being.

lol

peace
 
Maybe he's just a nerd who, instead of learning Klingon, leant 'Islam' instead? I blame the internet.
 
invisibleplanet said:
Spion, aimes tu un peu d'amour, unité et égalité chez nous à tout de suite, mon chéri?
Maintenant, c'est plus comme le but de la vie! :D Je suis déjà là!
 
kyser_soze said:
You know what this thread looks like to a staunch athiest ? A lefty rip-up thread but with a different cast of characters...

I think thats what you meant :) its terrible :mad: religious types going on about their primitive fictional beliefs in such a blase manner :eek: what are these boards coming to :p
 
muckypup said:
I think thats what you meant :) its terrible :mad: religious types going on about their primitive fictional beliefs in such a blase manner :eek: what are these boards coming to :p

i don't think you quite get what kyzer meant tbh
 
kyser_soze said:
You know what this thread looks like? A lefty rip-up thread but with a different cast of characters...

now i'm trying to think of other great religious rip-up thread titles

'Is Catholicism or Othodox better'
'What's worse - Protestant or Islamic hell'
'Why do the hindus need all those gods'
'name your favourite unclean animal'
 
Random said:
now i'm trying to think of other great religious rip-up thread titles

'Is Catholicism or Othodox better'
'What's worse - Protestant or Islamic hell'
'Why do the hindus need all those gods'
'name your favourite unclean animal'

Ah, merci, Random, je comprends :)
 
invisibleplanet said:
What is 'a lefty rip-up thread', please? :oops:

Find a P&P thread where it gets all sectarian and you'll understand :D

now i'm trying to think of other great religious rip-up thread titles

'Is Catholicism or Othodox better'
'What's worse - Protestant or Islamic hell'
'Why do the hindus need all those gods'
'name your favourite unclean animal'

:D
 
kyser_soze said:
You know what this thread looks like? A lefty rip-up thread but with a different cast of characters...
It's more like a farce in a philosophy department if you ask me :D
 
Spion said:
It's more like a farce in a philosophy department if you ask me :D

3-stooges.jpg


ip, fattboy and aldy

Altho interestingly typing three stooges into google also gets you this on the front page...not the 3 Stooges as I remember them but hey...
 
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