the purpose of life

[weltweit]

Oh, ok sorry about that ! I can do ZzzzzzzZ ZZ

 

[kyser_soze]

It's Maszlow. What's wrong with you guys today? Having a none 'z' day?

'Thou whoreson Zed! Thou unecessary letter!'

 

[goldenecitrone]

'Thou whoreson Zed! Thou unecessary letter!'

Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.

 

[frogwoman]

I dont have any diea what the purpose of life is tbh. It's going to be different for everyone, although I'd guess obviously having kids would be a big one.
My idea of it is just to be a good person and enjoy myself. Try and make the world better for at least one person and make the world better, that sort of thing
i reckon that's what god, if he exists, wants out of me as well

 

[Barking_Mad]

I dont have any diea what the purpose of life is tbh. It's going to be different for everyone, although I'd guess obviously having kids would be a big one.
My idea of it is just to be a good person and enjoy myself. Try and make the world better for at least one person and make the world better, that sort of thing
i reckon that's what god, if he exists, wants out of me as well

If you put another 'o' in 'God', you get 'Good'.

 

[mk12]

"Please speak to me, ple-e-e-ease!"

1-0 to us then.

 

[goldenecitrone]

If you put another 'o' in 'God', you get 'Good'.

And if you put an 'N' at the beginning and 'le' at the end of 'evil' you get 'Neville'.

 

[Barking_Mad]

And if you put an 'N' at the beginning and 'le' at the end of 'evil' you get 'Neville'.

I had my suspicions!

 

[fela fan]

I dont have any diea what the purpose of life is tbh.

There is no purpose.

Once that has been internalised, life gains its own momentum.

The interesting thing is how obsessed humans are in trying to find a purpose. Hence a whole history of philosophers all on the wagon looking for the answers.

Drop the question, and there is the answer: nothing, no purpose, no reason. Just live it. And then death will come comfortably.

 

[kyser_soze]

There is no purpose.

Once that has been internalised, life gains its own momentum.

The interesting thing is how obsessed humans are in trying to find a purpose. Hence a whole history of philosophers all on the wagon looking for the answers.

Drop the question, and there is the answer: nothing, no purpose, no reason. Just live it. And then death will come comfortably.

Not often we agree, but yup. The only 'purpose' an individual human has is that which they create for themselves, not some universal.

 

[frogwoman]

If you put another 'o' in 'God', you get 'Good'.

And if you put an "n" in the middle of "god" and "ola" at the end, you get "gondola"

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

Not often we agree, but yup. The only 'purpose' an individual human has is that which they create for themselves, not some universal.

The purpose of life is creation then?

 

[invisibleplanet]

If you put another 'o' in 'God', you get 'Good'.

Unless Norwegian/Swedish (& presumably Danish) where Good=God

 

[kyser_soze]

The purpose of life is creation then?

OK, I think we need to clarify what we mean by life really...

'Life' in the sense of 'reproducing organisms' exists only to survive long enough to reproduce itself.

'A life', in specific reference to a human being, has no 'purpose' beyond that which the individual concerned chooses for themselves.

I reckon.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

OK, I think we need to clarify what we mean by life really...

'Life' in the sense of 'reproducing organisms' exists only to survive long enough to reproduce itself.

'A life', in specific reference to a human being, has no 'purpose' beyond that which the individual concerned chooses for themselves.

I reckon.

Feels like a bit of a false dichotomy but regardless, even with your latter definition, 'a life' for a human being has no purpose, other than that which you create for it, hence my comment that the purpose of life comes back to creation.

That doesn't mean meandering back down a Creationist pathway necessarily, but it does provide some basic purpose to 'life' i.e. the purpose of 'life' is to create the lifestyle that you choose. So the purpose of life remains creation. I like that as a purpose, it leaves so many options, so much free will, with no limits by definition (to create, you make something that wasn't there before).

 

[fela fan]

The purpose of life is creation then?

For animals yes.

But humans are of course animals, except we have consciousness, and can escape from that the shackles of needing to procreate.

So, back to the purpose of human life. Nothing. No purpose. And one of the reasons i say this is that once this premise is accepted, life becomes so much easier...

 

[fela fan]

Not often we agree, but yup. The only 'purpose' an individual human has is that which they create for themselves, not some universal.

Must be something blowing in the air of 2008...

 

[invisibleplanet]

Animals have consciousness too, fela.

 

[kyser_soze]

Feels like a bit of a false dichotomy but regardless, even with your latter definition, 'a life' for a human being has no purpose, other than that which you create for it, hence my comment that the purpose of life comes back to creation.

That doesn't mean meandering back down a Creationist pathway necessarily, but it does provide some basic purpose to 'life' i.e. the purpose of 'life' is to create the lifestyle that you choose. So the purpose of life remains creation. I like that as a purpose, it leaves so many options, so much free will, with no limits by definition (to create, you make something that wasn't there before).

Ah, OK, I get how you were using 'create' now...

And yeah, completely agree...let's start a new dogmatic faith based around the idea, make a mint, and live like fat hogs.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

Ah, OK, I get how you were using 'create' now...

And yeah, completely agree...let's start a new dogmatic faith based around the idea, make a mint, and live like fat hogs.

I think J.R. Bob Dobbs might have beat us to it unfortunately.

 

[invisibleplanet]

Pope Paulie Tandoori has spoken

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

Pope Paulie Tandoorie has spoken

Bless you my child


p.s. no 'e' in Tandoori innit, not on a school night anyway

 

[Spion]

1-0 to us then.

Do one you pathetic dullard. Come back when you can string more than one sentence together

 

[invisibleplanet]

Bless you my child


p.s. no 'e' in Tandoori innit, not on a school night anyway

My bad. I have amended my post accordingly.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

My bad. I have amended my post accordingly.

Eternal salvation will be yours in excelsis.

Must admit, I quite like this Pope stuff, new career for 2008 perhaps.....

 

[weltweit]

... the purpose of 'life' is to create the lifestyle that you choose. So the purpose of life remains creation. I like that as a purpose, it leaves so many options, so much free will, with no limits by definition (to create, you make something that wasn't there before).

I would prefer the purpose of a life becomes 'creative' because you can create the life that you want to create and as you say there are no limits, you can become whatever you want to become.

The only thing then is the choices you have to make and for many they are expected to make career changing choices according to which subjects they elect or are advised to take at school age. It is imo impossible at school age to know what you want to be your life's purpose.

 

[fattboy]

No, I can't, I can't do audio files (or video) with this computer.

Is there is a transcript anywhere I could read?

ill try find one for u Weltweight im sure theres one somewhere, its a great talk man

 

[fattboy]

I pondered about Bill Gates. He played the business game and won handsomly, becoming perhaps the richest man in the world. But now it seems the game has become dull to him, he has done it and yet perhaps does not feel fully satisfied and he had come to the realisation that he has far more money than he can ever need.

Now he and his wife are spending their time giving the money away to other people and causes that have better use for it. There is it seems in this case no need for punitive redistributive taxation to take from the rich and give to the poor as Bill Gates and his wife are doing it anyhow on their own account.

I wonder if the simple life of an honest barber (hair dresser) joking with customers as they do them a personal service, can be just as morally satisfying as the life of a Bill Gates, and I think it probably can be.

exactly, for all the money and material things we have in the west, no-ones really ever satisfied, their always looking for that something missing from their lives, their purpose.

 

[fela fan]

Animals have consciousness too, fela.

Ok! But i guess i mean, are they aware of their consciousness? No.

 

[Dillinger4]

Ok! But i guess i mean, are they aware of their consciousness? No.

I think some are more aware than others.

For example, a dog can recognize things that belong to him (ie he knows his dog bed is his).

A mosquito might only have a few self-concepts.