The ongoing stupidity of Home Secretary Priti Patel

[not-bono-ever]

* you would think anyway

 

[Pickman's model]

She is out after Brexit anyway. No need for thick brexiteers in the cabinet once a deal is sorted out. She is a nasty bit of work and doesn’t have the smarts required to make a functional HS

Not to mention not having the smarts to make a functional hb

 

[Pickman's model]

Accidentally bullying and treating people without due respect is in many ways worse than intentionally doing so, at least if you done it on purpose you can modify your behaviour, but if the actions are just part of her make up there's no hope of reform for her.

I don't think you can accidentally or unintentionally bully someone, just as you can't accidentally or unintentionally knee someone in the groin and kick them several times while they're on the ground

 

[not-bono-ever]

If there is any competence in this junta, then there will be a massed clear out of brexit supporting idiot patsys next year. They will have served their purpose. That’s a big if.

 

[existentialist]

Accidentally bullying and treating people without due respect is in many ways worse than intentionally doing so, at least if you done it on purpose you can modify your behaviour, but if the actions are just part of her make up there's no hope of reform for her.

And you'd expect someone who'd accidentally bullied someone to be shamed and embarrassed when they realised what they'd done. But Patel has been "accidentally" bullying quite a lot of people, over quite a long timeframe - it's inconceivable that she had no idea what was going on. Ah, but then I remember the thread title, "...ongoing stupidity of...". But nah, she's not THAT stupid. She knew what she was doing when she was bullying people: it's her modus operandi. And it's not accidental. Even if she is stupid.

 

[bimble]

Can't be bothered to read the details but the whole idea of accidentally bullying people is just mad.
If she thought her behaviour was fine that makes it fine? In which case I might go and do a shit on my neighbours front step because they are a bit annoying and i think it would be fine and completely normal to do this and if turns out its not fine then it was an accident and not my fault.

 

[not-bono-ever]

I know it’s contentious here but IME, senior civil servants are smart and usually on top of their Game, whatever you think about them. Priti vacant probably senses their utter condescension at every juncture.

 

[Pickman's model]

If there is any competence in this junta, then there will be a massed clear out of brexit supporting idiot patsys next year. They will have served their purpose. That’s a big if.

There is no competence in the government

There is no justice in the government

 

[two sheds]

She is out after Brexit anyway. No need for thick brexiteers in the cabinet once a deal is sorted out. She is a nasty bit of work and doesn’t have the smarts required to make a functional HS

I didn't think smarts was what was looked for in a home secretary: it's all about bullying people (ie.e us). Jack Straw and Michael Howard come to mind.

 

[Lurdan]

 

[Gerry1time]

Surely knowing that you’re on the same side of an argument as Kate Hoey is punishment enough?

 

[Chilli.s]

Accidentally or unintentionally bullying someone is an obvious tell of how underqualified she is for ministerial roles.

If this is the calibre of talent at the top no wonder everything seems fucked.

 

[eatmorecheese]

"Strong and decisive". Divisive? Derisive?

 

[brogdale]

Hmm..someone resigns...but guess what...

 

[editor]

Fuck's sake. How many times is this monstrous woman going to keep breaking the rules?

Priti Patel: Bullying inquiry head quits as PM backs home secretary

The home secretary apologises for any upset - but says she was "not being supported" by her department.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[brogdale]

Fuck's sake. How many times is this monstrous woman going to keep breaking the rules?

Priti Patel: Bullying inquiry head quits as PM backs home secretary

The home secretary apologises for any upset - but says she was "not being supported" by her department.

www.bbc.co.uk

True then and true now...

 

[steveo87]

It was inevitable, wasn't it.

 

[BCBlues]

It will be the Cummings fiasco all over again. Johnson will prove his inability to sort real problems out and then sack Patel in a few months for calling Carrie silly names.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Fuck me, Hoey is beyond help now, isn't she?

 

[PD58]

At least AA has some moral fibre and has resigned...there is still the unfair dismissal case to come of course.

 

[killer b]

Fuck me, Hoey is beyond help now, isn't she?

she's a tory peer.

 

[BristolEcho]

Just listening to someone excusing shouting and swearing from a person in power at work due to the stress of work. It shows how far we have to come in regards to workplace bullying.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Fuck's sake. How many times is this monstrous woman going to keep breaking the rules?

Priti Patel: Bullying inquiry head quits as PM backs home secretary

The home secretary apologises for any upset - but says she was "not being supported" by her department.

www.bbc.co.uk

From that:

Ministers are normally expected to resign if they break the code and there are no known cases of a minister staying in post following a breach.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Disruption of accepted convention.

 

[philosophical]

Patel must've accidentally thought up the notion of threatening the Republic of Ireland with food shortages as part of the Brexit negotiations.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

No need for thick brexiteers in the cabinet once a deal is sorted out.

Sorry, who else is there in the cabinet?

 

[ska invita]

Independent panel make a considered decision, party leader overrules and does what he wants. Sounds familiar.....

 

[The39thStep]

Independent panel make a considered decision, party leader overrules and does what he wants. Sounds familiar.....

To be fair the report gives a load of mixed messages that create just enough uncertainty for Johnson to make a decision in her favour

He added: "Her approach on occasions has amounted to behaviour that can be described as bullying in terms of the impact felt by individuals.
"To that extent her behaviour has been in breach of the ministerial code, even if unintentionally."
However, he added that the home secretary had "legitimately - not always felt supported by the department".
"In addition, no feedback was given to the home secretary of the impact of her behaviour, which meant she was unaware of issues that she could otherwise have addressed."

 

[likesfish]

I once fed a vegan Jewish kid pork scratchings not knowing they were vegan or Jewish .
But I'm not Home secretary material if only because I keep my facist judge Dredd fantasies to myself

 

[ska invita]

To be fair the report gives a load of mixed messages that create just enough uncertainty for Johnson to make a decision in her favour

then again matey has resigned because of Johnsons response - not the most ringing endorsement