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It would be of great loss to society if people such as these, showing drive, commitment, and a willingness to create wealth, were to be locked up with shirkers such as those found in old fashioned prisons. That is why I am proud to offer a fast track to rehabilitation, enabling these people to more efficiently resume their rightful place in society.
 
It would be of great loss to society if people such as these, showing drive, commitment, and a willingness to create wealth, were to be locked up with shirkers such as those found in old fashioned prisons. That is why I am proud to offer a fast track to rehabilitation, enabling these people to more efficiently resume their rightful place in society.
FFS stop giving him ideas.
 
And well done dim SNP fearing English Tories, you've voted for the vilest politician ever to come out of Scotland to erode your Human rights http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/michael-gove-made-justice-secretary-5671445

I think you'll find that the Scottish government is in charge of Scottish prisons. They probably see Gove as a dim underachiever sent south to keep the natives under control. As to his being the vilest member of the Scotch diaspora, is he really more objectionable than George Galloway or Tony Blair?

And of course even if Labour have won every seat in Scotland, including the Tory one, we'd still have a Conservative majority in Westminster.
 
I think you'll find that the Scottish government is in charge of Scottish prisons.
I think youngian's thesis is that the Tories were voted in, perhaps even against the better judgement of the voters, on the back of the scare stories about the SNP. (If that's really the case, then the Union is on its last legs).

They probably see Gove as a dim underachiever sent south to keep the natives under control.
Who do? Who is thinking that Scots living in England are colonial masters?

Most people here, I imagine, just think of him as a Tory. Not sure his place of birth is relevant.

As to his being the vilest member of the Scotch diaspora, is he really more objectionable than George Galloway or Tony Blair?
Indeed.

And of course even if Labour have won every seat in Scotland, including the Tory one, we'd still have a Conservative majority in Westminster.
Indeed, but I don't think youngian wS saying different.
 
And of course even if Labour have won every seat in Scotland, including the Tory one, we'd still have a Conservative majority in Westminster.

Can we make a locked sticky thread with just this comment in please, for the benefit of the hard of learning?

(Twitter could do with the same)
 
'kin'ell ...........gove as MoJ. that's 'orrible.
I wonder how long it will be before all the screws despise him as much as the teaching profession.
 
'kin'ell ...........gove as MoJ. that's 'orrible.
I wonder how long it will be before all the screws despise him as much as the teaching profession.

It doesn't really matter. There are infinitely more teachers than there are screws, so it mattered that Gove was pissing them off and he had to be moved. Screws, en masse, have much less ability to put their arguments across.
 
It doesn't really matter. There are infinitely more teachers than there are screws, so it mattered that Gove was pissing them off and he had to be moved. Screws, en masse, have much less ability to put their arguments across.
Go home early a couple of nights a week once the inevitable toughening up occurs.
 
It doesn't really matter. There are infinitely more teachers than there are screws, so it mattered that Gove was pissing them off and he had to be moved. Screws, en masse, have much less ability to put their arguments across.

They have lost the right to strike for a start.
 
The whole no cigarettes, no tv, no hope of release routine. I don't think the screws will have to do much themselves for it to start hitting the headlines.

Riots tend to harden attitudes against prisoners, don't they? There's no political benefit in sensible justice policies; counter-productive ones win votes.

Must admit I'd be all for a cigarette ban in prisons.
 
Most people here, I imagine, just think of him as a Tory. Not sure his place of birth is relevant.
Of course and my post was simply playing on the irony of the facile Tory nationalist dog whistling about the ungrateful Jocks coming down to fuck you over. Hope that clarifies it for people, who unlike yourself, misinterpreted my post.

Cheap shot alert:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...oliticians-at-top-of-westminster-9587642.html

How shall I put this, would you rule out a BSE scandal enquiry if you were a Minister of Agriculture that looks like a farmer
 
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Gove and Farage are obviously the new power couple of British politics. He has got previous experience of playing the role of a seemingly pious side-kick to a seemingly more sinister leader

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