"The Expanse" - New near-future sci-fi TV

[mojo pixy]

What I wonder about Amos is, is he processing some other shit, the kind of shit that made him how he is? He's mentioned vaguely someone from his past.

About Naomi, I'm now wondering as I haven't since the start, how deep in the OPA is she exactly?

I still wonder why Holden left Earth (though this is a major plot hook anyway)

And I obviously wonder who's going to die next.

 

[Supine]

Latest episode is keeping up the quality

 

[DotCommunist]

Spoiler: rocinante

lovely shot of it being parked in just the right place and orbit to stay nice and quiet

 

[lefteri]

The universal basic income on earth bit and Martians' disgust at it was interesting I thought

 

[editor]

I've got a far as episode 6 of the first series and it's getting worse. Should I hang in?

 

[mojo pixy]

What don't you like about it?
(if it's easier to say what you do like about it, do that)

 

[editor]

What don't you like about it?
(if it's easier to say what you do like about it, do that)

It's gone all a bit space combat cliche. Like a video game.

 

[mojo pixy]

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[mojo pixy]

I'd hang on for one more, episode 7 is great IIRC. If you still don't like it, give up then

 

[mojo pixy]

...aaand S2 E10 is up.

Every shitty thing we do makes the next one a little bit easier, doesn't it.

 

[DotCommunist]

It's gone all a bit space combat cliche. Like a video game.

It's science fiction. Sometimes that may include things happening in space.

 

[DotCommunist]

more top quality amos:

Spoiler: amos

'how many people have you killed?'

'I not sure'

'you're not sure?!'

' well I'm not a homicidal maniac'

 

[BigTom]

Superb episode

Spoiler: ep 11

that moment when Amos chucks the grenade back in the other room and they're all just wtf? as people start firing and screaming .

 

[lefteri]

It's gone all a bit space combat cliche. Like a video game.

There's not actually that much combat overall, for a space opera - far more dialogue

 

[lefteri]

Superb episode

Spoiler: ep 11

that moment when Amos chucks the grenade back in the other room and they're all just wtf? as people start firing and screaming .

Aagghh, waiting for the ms so I can watch it - on tenterhooks

 

[editor]

It's science fiction. Sometimes that may include things happening in space.

No really? Thing is, I'd like to think that in the future there'd be smarter alternatives to fleets of monstrously expensive ships conducting monstrously expensive battles in the deep vastness of space.

 

[lefteri]

No really? Thing is, I'd like to think that in the future there'd be smarter alternatives to fleets of monstrously expensive ships conducting monstrously expensive battles in the deep vastness of space.

Robot wars?

 

[Idaho]

No really? Thing is, I'd like to think that in the future there'd be smarter alternatives to fleets of monstrously expensive ships conducting monstrously expensive battles in the deep vastness of space.

Really? What's not to love?



If you really hate space combat sf, then it's not the series for you. But if you can tolerate it in a justified context then maybe there is hope.

Inevitably sf is dystopian and plays out the same failed way of doing things as now - both as allegory and to create some tension in the story.

 

[Crispy]

No really? Thing is, I'd like to think that in the future there'd be smarter alternatives to fleets of monstrously expensive ships conducting monstrously expensive battles in the deep vastness of space.

Sure, but it wouldn't make such exciting TV

 

[Idaho]

But yeah, you would think that it would all be remote drone swarms, accelerated roids and sensor spoofing.

 

[mojo pixy]

it's only set about 200 years in the future. Actually looking at the tech they seem to be using and the spread of settlements around the solar system 200 years seems a bit optimistic. At least 300, surely.

 

[lefteri]

it's only set about 200 years in the future. Actually looking at the tech they seem to be using and the spread of settlements around the solar system 200 years seems a bit optimistic. At least 300, surely.

There's no man-made artificial intelligence as far as I can tell

 

[Crispy]

There's no man-made artificial intelligence as far as I can tell

No Strong AI that we've seen, but the computers seem to be very good at natural language and can answer complex questions

 

[mojo pixy]

The stations are huge and well-supplied. How long might it take to make a Ceres Station like that? More than 200 years from now, I reckon.

 

[Crispy]

It's going to be

Spoiler: s02e11

his daughter

running amok out there isn't it?

The universal basic income on earth bit and Martians' disgust at it was interesting I thought

And then when we meet some so-called "takers" during Bobbi's escape, we get to see just how basic it is. 30 billion people can't live like kings. Some really good world-building in this show.

 

[Crispy]

Oh, and the suspiciously quick slingshot trajectory that Alex took the Roccinante on?

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The writers only realised what they'd done once VFX production was underway and it was too late to change.
Also, this tickled me:

**The accounting department at our studio often refers to the show as “The Expense”.

 

[lefteri]

Oh, and the suspiciously quick slingshot trajectory that Alex took the Roccinante on?

GUEST POST: Losing Science in Drama (and Finding Drama in Science) - Danielabraham.com

The writers only realised what they'd done once VFX production was underway and it was too late to change.
Also, this tickled me:

The fact that they're even worried about this sort of thing shows the level of attention to detail and verisimilitude

 

[DotCommunist]

No really? Thing is, I'd like to think that in the future there'd be smarter alternatives to fleets of monstrously expensive ships conducting monstrously expensive battles in the deep vastness of space.

hey the military-industrial complex has to go somewhere. Asteroid mining.

 

[DotCommunist]

yes 11 is fairly immense

Spoiler: stuff

from that sly slow slingshots sequence to the rage of a father- and when his little girls backback sprung out the 3-d pokemon style graphics in his hands I choked back a rageful tear. The Martian sergeants defection, so epically violent and tense. She's gorgeous as well, not simply for the looks but that righteous fury. And to break the rigid moral code of her martial martian indoctrination? Fist bump. More to say on this but I think its a second-watcher. Whatserfaces decision to split with the crew and take muscles with her struck me as sudden but it is in character. They're all the only people trying to get rid of the protomolecule, and save all they can in the proccess. They have a moral imperative to them. Fucking quality viewing

 

[DotCommunist]

Also Ashur from Spartacus: Blood and Sand is well throwing me off even though he is playing the same sort of devious cunt in the future as he did in the past