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"The Expanse" - New near-future sci-fi TV

I'm another one who was going along with it then bailed for no particular reason, maybe just not compelling enough, but sounds like it will be worth giving it another go.
 
Chz said:
While we're bigging up the supporting cast. All due credit to Cara Gee, whose part is actually two completely different characters in the book but when the showrunners saw her performance they decided to make sure she stuck around.
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Yeah, she's good as well.
 
Crap , I was trying to save them , but just caught up , the building tension ........epic

.Looks lush too
 
I've almost made it to the end of season 4 and I'm struggling. The season started off well, with the promise of exploring a new world but then it becomes a stock sci fi show about setting up various perils which then are easily solved. Them all being stuck in the alien structure for most of the season with ridiculous dangers like deadly glow-slugs and an eye parasite with an deus ex machina solution, wore my patience thin. Murtry is a cliched pantomime villain, Christjen's storyline of running for office keeps going in circles and the excellent Drummer has been sidelined. This has gone from a space epic dealing with war and intrigue to Star Trek filler-episodes quality.

Is season 5 an improvement or should I give up ?
 
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I found it flagged badly during season 4. There's no harm in skipping to season 5, which is IMO more interesting and less confusing. There are a couple of references in s5 to events in s4, but nothing that breaks enjoyment; the few bits with drummer, and bobbie's corruption-on-mars subplot, are the only worthwhile story strands and it's easy enough to catch up with them in s5.
 
mojo pixy said:
I found it flagged badly during season 4. There's no harm in skipping to season 5, which is IMO more interesting and less confusing. There are a couple of references in s5 to events in s4, but nothing that breaks enjoyment; the few bits with drummer, and bobbie's corruption-on-mars subplot, are the only worthwhile story strands and it's easy enough to catch up with them in s5.
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I’ve only got one more episode of season 4 to go, so might as well watch that. I’ll give some other shows a watch and will return to The Expanse when I'm in the mood.
 
Have to say, i'm struggling with this last season. Just got round to the second episode and it was just boring. I preferred it when it was about the protomolecule. this war with the belters has run its course and I find it boring now. wish they would focus more on the mars lot who went through the ring. this part of the plot just seems dead and of no longer focused on. they made the ring a major thing with Holden having a vision about its danger. it is a much more interesting story which just seems secondary and forgotten about.
 
donkyboy said:
Have to say, i'm struggling with this last season. Just got round to the second episode and it was just boring. I preferred it when it was about the protomolecule. this war with the belters has run its course and I find it boring now. wish they would focus more on the mars lot who went through the ring. this part of the plot just seems dead and of no longer focused on. they made the ring a major thing with Holden having a vision about its danger. it is a much more interesting story which just seems secondary and forgotten about.
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The book series has been completed and the 'laconia' plotline resolved (I haven't read the books) but since the show has been cut off (for now) at six seasons it looks like we're just going to see the end of the free navy conflict. Not a satisfying ending but at least we're not getting the rushed shark jumping other scifi/fantasy shows have resorted to.
 
Graymalkin said:
The book series has been completed and the 'laconia' plotline resolved (I haven't read the books) but since the show has been cut off (for now) at six seasons it looks like we're just going to see the end of the free navy conflict. Not a satisfying ending but at least we're not getting the rushed shark jumping other scifi/fantasy shows have resorted to.
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There is another book on the way.
 
I'd be interested to read the books, but I suspect I would just give up. I don't know why, but I can't seem to read anything other than autobiographies anymore. I used to love science fiction books, but just can't connect with them anymore.
 
Reno said:
I've almost made it to the end of season 4 and I'm struggling. The season started off well, with the promise of exploring a new world but then it becomes a stock sci fi show about setting up various perils which then are easily solved. Them all being stuck in the alien structure for most of the season with ridiculous dangers like deadly glow-slugs and an eye parasite with an deus ex machina solution, wore my patience thin. Murtry is a cliched pantomime villain, Christjen's storyline of running for office keeps going in circles and the excellent Drummer has been sidelined. This has gone from a space epic dealing with war and intrigue to Star Trek filler-episodes quality.

Is season 5 an improvement or should I give up ?
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This has been a problem I've had with the whole show. The pacing. Some bits are frankly just quite dull, especially a lot of Christien's sscenes.

But when it's good, it's very good, so I'm still watching.
 
I can't remember where I'm up to in the books.
Last I read, they're all a lot older and Holden is in prison for reasons I can't quite recall.
 
xenon said:
I can't remember where I'm up to in the books.
Last I read, they're all a lot older and Holden is in prison for reasons I can't quite recall.
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Holden got captured after trying to stop anyone dying when they blasted Medina station, the book picks up with him a guest of Laconia.
The books in general are very willing to timeskip, it's been a good twenty years or something since the start of the books by the time Holden is in jail
 
Ive got a suspicion that the last episode is really going to annoy me , there are far to many simultaneous story arcs running to satisfyingly end in the final extended 90 min
 
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Is that it then?
It was just getting good again.
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Yep, unless the remaining 3 books get picked up in future, which could happen - they are set a good few years after the existing stuff so doesn't need to be done straight away and actors could be recast from what I've been told of the books.
 
BigTom said:
Yep, unless the remaining 3 books get picked up in future, which could happen - they are set a good few years after the existing stuff so doesn't need to be done straight away and actors could be recast from what I've been told of the books.
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So the stuff with the kids on the other side of the ring? A set up for the future. Is there enough in the last three books to reignite a whole new cast.
When I think back though, the private dick scifi noir at the beginning is something completely different from where we get to in the end.
I should probably start all over again.

After pissing around a bit too long with the belter conflict it ended quite suddenly. I would have also liked a bit more of the aftermath rather than just a chat around a table and a press conference. Felt very rushed.
 
The round table chat bit had uncomfortable echoes of Game of Thrones' damp squib finale. It was redeemed by the episode's one real air-punching moment, when Holden hands his new job straight to Drummer.
 
ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
So the stuff with the kids on the other side of the ring? A set up for the future. Is there enough in the last three books to reignite a whole new cast.
When I think back though, the private dick scifi noir at the beginning is something completely different from where we get to in the end.
I should probably start all over again.

After pissing around a bit too long with the belter conflict it ended quite suddenly. I would have also liked a bit more of the aftermath rather than just a chat around a table and a press conference. Felt very rushed.
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Yeah, I'm told the Laconia arc is the next trilogy of books. I think they included it here partly because it has some impact on the belter war and partly to leave it open to being picked up again in future. I haven't read the books so I really don't know if you could do it with a new cast. If they don't film it straight away they'll lose too many to scheduling issues I think, like with Jared Harris. Cara Gee is going to be in huge demand after this for sure, and I think a lot of the other secondary character actors will be sought after too.

The authors describe the books as a trilogy of trilogies and yeah I agree about seasons 1-3 and miss Miller (also another secondary character that was both great and really well acted)
 
SpookyFrank said:
The round table chat bit had uncomfortable echoes of Game of Thrones' damp squib finale. It was redeemed by the episode's one real air-punching moment, when Holden hands his new job straight to Drummer.
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I quite liked some of the table chat, I have missed the politics. It was just all very rushed. . . and small.
 
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