The Cranberries are a Top50 band in History

[xenon]

I don't really understand insulting particular bands - and yes I'd agree it's insulting the fans and almost trying to put them off liking the music they do.

I don't like Abba for example but I wouldn't dream of insulting the music - I can understand why people do like them, and they do (I understand) have complex musical progressions.

It's almost like the insulter isn't sure about liking the music they themselves like, and have to try to put other people off the music they like.

oh come on there are loads of bands that deserve a slagging off. worth slagging off, quite rightly.

 

[killer b]

TBF the politics of Money for Nothing are pretty dodge all in. It's a quality riff though.

 

[Favelado]

TBF the politics of Money for Nothing are pretty dodge all in. It's a quality riff though.

Does Sting get money for nothing for his tiny contribution at the end? Imagine if he gets royalties on that. That 12 seconds of work getting him paid 1000 times more than I will in my whole life.

 

[Orang Utan]

Fucking love Knopfler's Local Hero theme too.

 

[two sheds]

oh come on there are loads of bands that deserve a slagging off. worth slagging off, quite rightly.

You're right, clearly, but what are the criteria?

pretentious? I've seen that of King Crimson because they have complicated time signatures which to me grab hold of you

can't play their instruments? That's a lot of punk

sings flat? Incredible String Band's out then

pappy - i.e. all 'popular' music now? There I'd agree with you, I've not listened to anyone since Hybrid and Massive Attack but if someone enjoys it then they enjoy it, and I'm not sure insulting it helps.

 

[rekil]

What do you think about the slurathon in the middle? Knopfler playing a character, or is that a bit Morrissey in Bengali in Platforms? i.e. Sounds plausible, but possibly his real persona.

I remember seeing a doc where the posh studio crew were explaining how money for nothing came about. "knopfler", as they kept calling him because I'd guess they were public schoolboys, nicked some worker's banter and put it to music. It's still fucking horrible. According to Simon Goddard's book, even though it's a hagiography, the earlier versions of bengali in platforms are even worse.

 

[Favelado]

I remember seeing a doc where the posh studio crew were explaining how money for nothing came about. "knopfler", as they kept calling him because I'd guess they were public schoolboys, nicked some worker's banter and put it to music. It's still fucking horrible. According to Simon Goddard's book, even though it's a hagiography, the earlier versions of bengali in platforms are even worse.

I honestly believed that Morrissey was using the song to tell a story, and that it that the 'when you belong here' line was actually beautiful and wistful.

Rather fucking wrong about that, it turned out.

 

[xenon]

You're right, clearly, but what are the criteria?

pretentious? I've seen that of King Crimson because they have complicated time signatures which to me grab hold of you

can't play their instruments? That's a lot of punk

sings flat? Incredible String Band's out then

pappy - i.e. all 'popular' music now? There I'd agree with you, I've not listened to anyone since Hybrid and Massive Attack but if someone enjoys it then they enjoy it, and I'm not sure insulting it helps.

well, you choose your own weapons. there is some great pop music around now of course. Loads of dross toobut there always has been. not that I listen to radio one. It mostly annoyed me even when I was younger.

 

[two sheds]

How Soon is Now is still a class track though not sure about the words but I rarely am

 

[krtek a houby]

My Bloody Valentine more influential. Also, another band whose spectre I won't raise here.

Fucking love The Chieftains

 

[JimW]

Cranberries are not the only fruit, you get some real plums too.

 

[krtek a houby]

I certainly notice you nervous

Welcome to urban, Crannadict

You'll find that this place is full of insightful debate about music and none of that puerile stuff that you'd find in your schooldays or Youtube.

And yes, The Cranberries are the greatest musical artists to come out of Limerick, aside from Aphex Twin and The Rubberbandits of course.

In the meantime, recommend Bitch Falcon and Pillow Queens to you. These bands are from Dublin, which has produced some of the greatest bands in the known universe.

 

[Aladdin]

one way you could avoid having your feelings hurt by people saying your favourite band is crap would be to not read the thread called 'crap or not crap: your favourite band', cause there's a good chance there'll be some people in there calling your favourite band crap. that'd be my tip.

Another way would be to avoid cunts like you.

 

[Aladdin]

You seriously think that? That's quite astonishing.

It isn't if you think about it.
Music is the language of emotion and memories. You know that the amigdala is affected directly by music? Your brain actually gets triggered enotionally by music.
So it's really very personal. A particular song can bring instant recollections of a time in your life or someone you loved .

 

[Aladdin]

But surely it's okay here. It's just nasty to say to someone for no reason in IRL.

Why would it be ok here then if you wouldnt do the same irl?

 

[Aladdin]

Have some respect. no need to get sneery just because they don't know the acronym for some ancient rock bands.

Says The Master Of Sneer...

 

[maomao]

Which is why people can have strong likes and dislikes.

Both of which are fair topics of conversation.

 

[Aladdin]

I can understand that. All my friends love the rolling stones. I think they're shit apart from the odd one or two. My choice of music is always laughed at but I don't give a fuck now, although when I was younger it was hurtful when people sneered and laughed. Almost Like it was an assault on my intelligence if that makes sense.

Spot on @Calamity71
And when the person doing the ctiticising gets worse when they KNOW that you're really close to the band and singer......it's not only an assault on your intelligence...it's a direct assault on you as a person.

 

[Aladdin]

Because it's more interesting to talk about what you like and don't like about things than it is to only talk about the things you like.

As opposed to what you did regarding Dolores...

 

[andysays]

I think some people just like different things is all

What you mean is you hate the Irish.

You fucking monster.

Spoiler

In case anyone doesn't understand this, I don't really think killer b hates Irish people or is a fucking monster (although he does have rather dubious musical taste). This comment is an ironic reference to some of the stupidity posted on the previous thread.

 

[Aladdin]

What you mean is you hate the Irish.

You fucking monster.

Spoiler

In case anyone doesn't understand this, I don't really think killer b hates Irish people or is a fucking monster (although he does have rather dubious musical taste). This comment is an ironic reference to some of the stupidity posted on the previous thread.

Well that's really helpful

 

[andysays]

Well that's really helpful

I wasn't going to post further on this subject, but since you've jumped straight in, I'll just say that your post on the previous thread which basically accused two posters of not liking the Cranberries because they were Irish rather than from the UK was a fucking disgrace and you should be ashamed of yourself.

This thread is now going ignore.

 

[Aladdin]

I wasn't going to post further on this subject, but since you've jumped straight in, I'll just say that your post on the previous thread which basically accused two posters of not liking the Cranberries because they were Irish rather than from the UK was a fucking disgrace and you should be ashamed of yourself.

This thread is now going ignore.

Actually that's not what happened. There was a comment made which was obviously anti catholic and I responded to that.
I think what you missed is the persistent nastiness posted about Dolores..which worsened when they realised that there was a real life connection.

 

[kabbes]

I always thought the Cranberries were okay — quite good, but I was a bit take it or leave it at the time. We do a cover of Linger in our band, though, and putting it together gave me a fresh respect for how much is going on in their music. There’s some clever countermelody stuff and it has a real progression to it, not just repeating the same thing again and again.

I kind of associate them with The Corrs but we also do a cover of Runaway and that really is basic, not in the same class at all. One of the most popular things we do though, so there’s no accounting for taste

 

[Knotted]

What nonsense is this!?

Lark's Tongues in Aspic is the best King Crimson album.

 

[two sheds]

What nonsense is this!?

Lark's Tongues in Aspic is the best King Crimson album.

Do remember it fondly but haven't listened to it for years. I shall go off and do so today

 

[Knotted]

I'm only kidding. Discipline's great. It's the best version of the band with some of the best material just I don't think they slay it in the studio like they do with some of the live footage. Somehow Discipline's a little dry IMO.

 

[maomao]

I like the way the Cranberries megafan hasn't aimed too high. Not best band in the world, or even top 10. Top 50 is aiming pretty low. I'd probably struggle to name fifty bands I liked without checking the internet.

 

[two sheds]

I'm only kidding. Discipline's great. It's the best version of the band with some of the best material just I don't think they slay it in the studio like they do with some of the live footage. Somehow Discipline's a little dry IMO.

Fair play, I just watch them playing Discipline in awe (when I'm not trying and mainly failing to follow the beat).

 

[Knotted]

Fair play, I just watch them playing Discipline in awe (when I'm not trying and mainly failing to follow the beat).

It's polly rhythmic isn't it? There isn't one discernable beat.