petee
no gods, no malarkey
this a new-ish plank in their rhetorical platform, weird/gay/selfish/liberals who don't have families vs solid/xian/rightwing types who do.
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this a new-ish plank in their rhetorical platform, weird/gay/selfish/liberals who don't have families vs solid/xian/rightwing types who do.
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Ah, that might go some way in explaining their Facebook avatars, always with the pics of their kids. Or pets.
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Proud Boy calls out Antifa
petee
no gods, no malarkey
In hours of live-streamed video Thursday, a North Carolina man ranted against President Joe Biden, Democrats, illegal immigrants and the health care system while daring federal agents to shoot him – the trigger, he said, to detonate a bomb inside of the truck he’d parked outside of the Library of Congress.
FridgeMagnet
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Man who claimed to have bomb near US Capitol surrenders after long standoff
Floyd Roseberry drove on to sidewalk by Library of Congress, prompting huge police response and evacuations
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Might as well go here, US lefty/anarcho folksinger David Rovics has been making some fucking odd choices lately:
itsgoingdown.org
Rovics' take:
My Anonymous Critic Speaks (posted for info, not an endorsement)
“No, It Is the Children Who Are Wrong”: A Response to David Rovics
A response to David Rovics. See Rovics's original statement, published here. We want to start by stating that we are fans of the music that David Rovics has made over the years and his contributions to various anti-capitalist movements. From writing songs about political prisoners, in support of...
itsgoingdown.org
Rovics' take:
My Anonymous Critic Speaks (posted for info, not an endorsement)
ska invita
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do you have an opinion on this?Might as well go here, US lefty/anarcho folksinger David Rovics has been making some fucking odd choices lately:
“No, It Is the Children Who Are Wrong”: A Response to David Rovics
A response to David Rovics. See Rovics's original statement, published here. We want to start by stating that we are fans of the music that David Rovics has made over the years and his contributions to various anti-capitalist movements. From writing songs about political prisoners, in support of...
Rovics' take:
My Anonymous Critic Speaks (posted for info, not an endorsement)
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Um, basically that either liking Atzmon or interviewing Heimbach or going on Kevin Barrett's show alone could be written off as a lapse of judgement, but to do all three seems like... really committing to a certain position? Also, he really needs to get his story straight about Heimbach, at one point he writes "The closest thing I have come to "defense" is to recommend Gilad Atzmon's book, and to fail to see why it is that Matthew Heimbach is still considered to be a white nationalist now, when he isn't, as far as I can tell, from my many resources." Suggesting that interviewing Heimbach is fine because he's not a nazi anymore (and I would agree with this if it was the case, it is fine and good to interview people who have genuinely left the far-right). But then he says "the author lays out why they think Heimbach is still a fascist, and what he did over the years as a fascist. None of this is relevant, given that I think talking to members of the far right, under the right circumstances, is something that needs to happen constantly, daily, all the time, and in public, whenever possible to have reasonable discourse, as I had with Heimbach." Which is a completely different argument.
I suppose there's no reason to think Rovics isn't being sincere in what he says, but I think he does now seem to have ended up as being a useful idiot for some quite unpleasant people.
I suppose there's no reason to think Rovics isn't being sincere in what he says, but I think he does now seem to have ended up as being a useful idiot for some quite unpleasant people.
I've always had bad vibes about the guy, especially as he has writen and performed songs about left-wing dictators such as Castro.Might as well go here, US lefty/anarcho folksinger David Rovics has been making some fucking odd choices lately:
“No, It Is the Children Who Are Wrong”: A Response to David Rovics
A response to David Rovics. See Rovics's original statement, published here. We want to start by stating that we are fans of the music that David Rovics has made over the years and his contributions to various anti-capitalist movements. From writing songs about political prisoners, in support of...
Rovics' take:
My Anonymous Critic Speaks (posted for info, not an endorsement)
I'm sure there was some Hezbollah apologetics years ago aswell.
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nogojones
spelling is overrated
And his music's shite
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DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
On the other hand
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DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Yossarian
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"And just like the Taliban, we have pickup trucks and will be facing a force trained and funded by the US."
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
A few threads this could go in, but I suppose here is not inappropriate:
www.theguardian.com
Revealed: how California police chased a nonexistent ‘antifa bus’
Authorities in rural northern counties spread misinformation and launched aircraft surveillance in response to false rumors about antifa ‘infiltrators’, according to records obtained by the Guardian
Yossarian
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Alex Jones - like the crowd at that Alabama rally - turns on Trump after he recommends getting the vaccine.
"Shame on you, Trump. Seriously. Hey, if you don't have the good sense to save yourself and your political career, that's OK. At least you're going to get some good Republicans elected, and we like you. But, my God, maybe you're not that bright. Maybe Trump's actually a dumbass."
Could be an interesting few months of fighting between pro and anti-vaccine Trumpists, if COVID doesn't thin the ranks of the antis too quickly.
"Shame on you, Trump. Seriously. Hey, if you don't have the good sense to save yourself and your political career, that's OK. At least you're going to get some good Republicans elected, and we like you. But, my God, maybe you're not that bright. Maybe Trump's actually a dumbass."
Could be an interesting few months of fighting between pro and anti-vaccine Trumpists, if COVID doesn't thin the ranks of the antis too quickly.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
A critical reportback from Portland antifascists - sounds like the far-right rally was originally planned to be in town, so the antifascist mobilization was also planned for a central location, then the far-right ended up having to hold it in a residential area, and there were some messy arguments about whether to relocate or not:
rosecitycounterinfo.noblogs.org
More straightforwardly triumphalist reports are also available, see:
idavox.com
truthout.org
Also, more on Heimbach's supposed conversion:
therealnews.com
We Went Where They Went — 8/22/21 Reportback – Rose City Counter-Info
rosecitycounterinfo.noblogs.org
More straightforwardly triumphalist reports are also available, see:
Antifa Make Proud Boys Cry in Portland – Idavox
Yeah, there was gunplay, fights and a van tipped over. We will explain all of...
idavox.com
Anti-Fascists Stopped Proud Boys From Entering Portland’s City Center on Sunday
Activists said Sunday's events were a perfect example of how well-organized resistance to the far right can play out.
truthout.org
Also, more on Heimbach's supposed conversion:
Matthew Heimbach and the left’s vulnerability to fascist infiltration
Matthew Heimbach was one of the central instigators of white-nationalist violence at the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. Now, he’s trying to rebrand as a leftist—and some people are falling for it.
therealnews.com
petee
no gods, no malarkey
this is a great danger. never forget what steve king said, becuase he's right.
Rep. Steve King posts meme bragging red states have ‘8 trillion bullets’ - Roll Call
Rep. Steve King posted a meme Saturday about a hypothetical civil war between “blue states” fighting over which bathroom to use and “red states” with trillions of bullets. The post is an image of two figures composed of traditionally Democratic-leaning and Republican-leaning states in fighting...
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
A critical reportback from Portland antifascists - sounds like the far-right rally was originally planned to be in town, so the antifascist mobilization was also planned for a central location, then the far-right ended up having to hold it in a residential area, and there were some messy arguments about whether to relocate or not:
We Went Where They Went — 8/22/21 Reportback – Rose City Counter-Info
More straightforwardly triumphalist reports are also available, see:
Antifa Make Proud Boys Cry in Portland – Idavox
Yeah, there was gunplay, fights and a van tipped over. We will explain all of...Anti-Fascists Stopped Proud Boys From Entering Portland’s City Center on Sunday
Activists said Sunday's events were a perfect example of how well-organized resistance to the far right can play out.
Also, more on Heimbach's supposed conversion:
Matthew Heimbach and the left’s vulnerability to fascist infiltration
Matthew Heimbach was one of the central instigators of white-nationalist violence at the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. Now, he’s trying to rebrand as a leftist—and some people are falling for it.
The Portland battles have the usual suspects over here trying to turn it on its head
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