Johnny Canuck3
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i dont think there was a thread on BLM and its representation. you can see it here in this thread instead.
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Another sensible blogger calling out the bullshit
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Before anyone goes off on one, (and who gives a fuck?). Be informed and not fucking stupid or blind to what others are saying, inferencing, suggesting, stating. Understand what is presented to you before making daft, irrelevent, outlandish and frankly stupid claims. I do not respond to anyone 'going off on one' by the way. Its like someone stupid shouting at me. I ignore it and call bullshit. That is not an argument. I think the chap here makes some sense. If youre wondering what that means, it means 'holds water' and makes his case.
Get educated.
Get educated.
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Johnny Canuck3
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yes. and your point is...?
If there was anyone to lead a meaningful movement in this spirit BLM deserves it would be Prince. He believed that ALL lives matter. As a minority black person in almost all white Minneapolis, Prince was a passionate supporter of the black community but he wouldn't support BLM as it currently stands, a movement that incites hatred, and if you look at the evidence from the Toronto movement, is highly racist against whites (the evidence for this can be found if you read what the co founder Yusra Khogali has said about white people being sub humans and, among other things, wanting to kill them). Her co founders Sandy Hudson and supporters have defended her publicly. That's why many black informed people are distancing themselves from it's current representation, and complaining.
ruining Bernie Sanders speech is one example
and destroying Toronto Pride, is another by demanding there be no police involved....(Pride agreed to their demands which also discriminated against a minority group of gay people: police officers whose gay community had the right to be represented same as any other group, and were needed on the day...)
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"anti-white" jesus.
Next up: "reverse racism"
Next up: "reverse racism"
Johnny Canuck3
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My point is that you're posting up these random videos from random black people dissing BLM; so I thought I'd put one up from a black person who I know you respect - who is endorsing BLM.
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Toronto Pride is far from being destroyed.
Have you watched them? They are informed people explaining from various points of view why they do not support this movement in its current incarnation and why. You of course googled 'Prince black lives matter' with your contribution. Which i have responded to, in detail. And he endorsed the sentiment, which we all do. Have a look inside what is really happening within the movement before deciding you agree with a blanket statement.
its like me going 'Up the Ra!' (Irish Republican Army) without educating myself on what it actually means. No difference.
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Yeh right. Being bullied was great for Pride
Pride statement:
'This is the opposite of what Pride is all about. There has been an unbelievable amount of racism expressed by members of our community through this organisation.”
They added: “When we received these demands – we understood that they are reflective of a long and difficult history between Pride and Black queer communities, but now also understand them to be reflective of our current efforts, or lack thereof, to improve relationships with Pride’s black community, and other marginalised communities.
Pride Toronto bans police from parade after Black Lives Matter dispute
Johnny Canuck3
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What I see, is an attack on Toronto BLM because of the comments of Khogali, by you. You then link to these black people who don't like the American BLM.
I'm not sure that there's a monolithic BLM. I don't know if BLM leaders in New York, San Francisco, or London, support what Khogali has said.
So for you to tar all of BLM as stupid and dangerous, based on what one person in Toronto has said, seems a leap too far.
So you are okay with her calling your PM Trudeau a white supremacist terrorist and praying to Allah that she will not kill white people.
Lots of people white and black arent cool with that! But maybe you think thats okay.what are the other movements doing that is great? show me evidence.
Johnny Canuck3
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Yeh right. Being bullied was great for Pride
There are legitimate grievances.
Toronto Police Have Officially Been Banned From Marching in the Gay Pride Parade - VICE
Also, to get a better understanding of the background behind the issue, you might want to do a bit of reading about the history of the relationship between the Toronto Police Department and the Toronto black community in general.
Johnny Canuck3
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So you are okay with her calling your PM Trudeau a white supremacist terrorist and praying to Allah that she will not kill white people.
I support that her right to free speech covers her making outrageous statements; in the same way you have defended Milo's right to do the same thing.
what % of black people have been mistreated compared to whites by the police?
i support her right to say what she wants. But we are free to comment on it, and disapprove if it incites racial hatred and killing. which Milo does not.
Johnny Canuck3
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Are you implying that there aren't legitimate grievances in black communities based on differential treatment by the police?
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You asked if I was ok with it. My response is that like you, I support free speech.
no, where did i say that? have you a statistic which shows the % of violence against black and white people by the cops? I'd like to see it
Johnny Canuck3
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I disagree. Painting Muslims as violent rapists breeds fear and hatred; and that leads to violent behavior in certain sectors.
Trump hasn't actively advocated violence against Muslims or minorities; but his Presidency has brought an upswing in racist acts in the US and Canada, including shootings.
There has also been an upsurge in threats against Jewish centers [there was one here in Vancouver this week]. Or are you one of those who denies that there is a link between Trump's rhetoric, and increased racial violence?
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That would require police forces to keep those sorts of statistics, which they aren't inclined to do.
I have spent time in Toronto, know many people there, and have observed first hand how the police deal with black people there.
I'm happy to say that there is a world of difference between the Toronto and Vancouver police.
you think so?
Johnny Canuck3
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I wouldn't say it if I didn't think it. 
And are you okay with being represented by a movement that calls Trudeau a white supremacist terrorist, in Toronto?
Johnny Canuck3
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How are they representing me? Because I'm a black person?
Come on.
I support the principles of the BLM. I don't want to kill or harm white people. Half my family is white, including my very own spouse.
As for saying bad things about Trudeau, read some of the contributions in the Comments sections of the Globe, or the CBC, and see the things that Conservatives say about Trudeau.
But it's allowed: we have free speech here in Canada.
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And not to quibble or anything; but I think it was one person in Toronto that said that about Trudeau. I don't think the whole movement said it.
no. you havent commented on Khogali's hateful anti white sentiments. im amazed
Despite Khogali's known hatred of white people and desire to kill them, youve said nothing. Although her statement to kill may have been rhetoric she is clear about white people being sub human and screamed that your president is a white supremecist terrorist (albeit being probably the most partisan president in the world). That's just mad. Im shocked that you wouldnt be disgusted by that.
on the fence. Im disappointed in you.
her movement supported her. watch this (seriously cringeworthy) interview with her co founder Sandy Hudson. Refuses to address the question. If she had the balls to just answer it, then they could have moved onto other questions but this is just rude. Dismissing a tweet inciting killing like its pure nonsense. Please. She is perfectly intelligent and just being rude. I'm being very polite here. Watch this on youtube to get a feel for what the world thinks, and read their comments! (take my point of view and multiply the pissed offness by a million gigawatts!!!!!)
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Johnny Canuck3
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Did you miss it?
We don't have a president. I don't agree with her that Trudeau is a terrorist; but I'm not shocked or disgusted that she has a different opinion of Trudeau, than I do.
Are you disgusted by Milo's comments?
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