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[tonysingh]

There's always a rematch clause written in to title fights. It's customary but I honestly think AJ shouldn't activate it. Instead he needs to work his way back into contention, earn the fight.

 

[tommers]

Thought Usyk would win before it started. Joshua has never looked convincing to me.

 

[tommers]

Usyk is a proper hard bastard. Joshua did all that fireworks shit. It was like Apollo Creed and Ivan Drago.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Carl Froch just asked why Joshua didn't "stick the head on him"

 

[bellaozzydog]

Well
I
Never

Joshua uncovered as a muscle bound 1 dimensional fighter

 

[Wilf]

Usyk is a proper hard bastard. Joshua did all that fireworks shit. It was like Apollo Creed and Ivan Drago.

Yeah, I didn't think much of the fireworks, or Joshua's entry. Too smiley, no game face. Then on just about everything was wrong. Awful tactics - I'm no boxing analyst, but I really wondered why he came in fairly light. And Joshua's never had particularly good head movement, but he just looked a bit wooden tonight. Also, his corner got it wrong. As he was coming out for the 10th or 11th, clearly behind, they were saying 'keep behind your job, keep your defence up and let him come on to you'. He was clearly losing at that point and needed to get at him more. Usyk is brilliant of course and may well now be the best pound for pound, but Joshua's camp don't seem to have watched the Chisora fight.

 

[8ball]

Carl Froch just asked why Joshua didn't "stick the head on him"

Because that's a totally different pay-per-view proposition.

 

[Wilf]

By the by, my guess is Joshua will be abandoning Mccracken in the next couple of weeks and heading off to an American trainer, or at the very least bringing someone 'into the team'. He'll also be aiming to put a stone of muscle on.

Not sure if will be enough though, last night was a demolition job.

 

[Ax^]

quite luckly he avoided Tyson and willder

he would of gotten hurt in fight against both

 

[Wilf]

quite luckly he avoided Tyson and willder

he would of gotten hurt in fight against both

Wilder would have been unpredictable. Joshua's probably the better boxer and has good power, but Wilder of course seems less worried about mixing it and gives himself the better chances of detonating a bomb. Don't like saying it, but Joshua looked scared at a couple of points last night. But yeah, Fury would have destroyed him on last night's showing, either as a boxing match or a brawl.

Suppose a lot this has to be about how good Usyk really is. I don't want to get into the 'AJ has always been shit/it's all Eddie' hype' thing, but he really did looked limited last night.

 

[Wilf]

... though, rough him up and he looks less good (Chisora v Usyk).

 

[Wilf]

On Mccracken again, from something I just saw on youtube reminded me he was shouting 'brilliant, well done, good jab' and similar throughout. 'Get in there, take some risks, jump on him' would have been better.

 

[Sasaferrato]

I watched the last four rounds, wondering when Joshua was going to turn up.

 

[tonysingh]

Evening of boxing on Channel 5 Saturday if anyone's sad enough to have no friends and be a shut-in like me. Eubank Jr is the main event.

 

[tonysingh]

Off! Off! Off!

the Eubank Jnr fight has been pulled, something to do with a medical.

 

[bellaozzydog]

I’ve got stacks of time and bandwidth so if there are any obscure but essential fights on you tube I should watch, feel free to link em

 

[8ball]

I’ve got stacks of time and bandwidth so if there are any obscure but essential fights on you tube I should watch, feel free to link em

Check out Kirkland Laing (RIP) vs. Colin Jones.

Not that obscure tbf.

 

[bellaozzydog]

Check out Kirkland Laing (RIP) vs. Colin Jones.

Not that obscure tbf.

A nice little YouTube rabbit hole to go down, cheers

 

[tonysingh]

Kirkland Laing had a proper sad and mystifying end to his life though.

 

[Numbers]

I’ve got stacks of time and bandwidth so if there are any obscure but essential fights on you tube I should watch, feel free to link em

Fill your boots.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkgZKRLDCBtVXfLUaUi4nvw/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/coachstrout/videos

 

[Numbers]

Who have youse got for this?

 

[tonysingh]

Who have youse got for this?

I've got a lack of excitement.

 

[Wilf]

I've got a lack of excitement.

Yeah, a 3rd fight seems pretty pointless. It'd be interesting to see Usyk in against Fury. Usyk's probably got the better movement, but it really would be the case of a good big 'un beating a good little 'un. I'd like to see Joe Joyce in the mix too, though I don't think he's got much chance against either Usyk or Fury. Dillian Whyte seem to slipping further in the pecking order.

 

[bellaozzydog]

Yeah, a 3rd fight seems pretty pointless. It'd be interesting to see Usyk in against Fury. Usyk's probably got the better movement, but it really would be the case of a good big 'un beating a good little 'un. I'd like to see Joe Joyce in the mix too, though I don't think he's got much chance against either Usyk or Fury. Dillian Whyte seem to slipping further in the pecking order.

Fury will paste Whyte. Average boxers don’t have the fight IQ to alter their style enough between fights to swing results

Fury will have a great fight against Usyk but tyson will come out on top

Joe Joyce would be better suited doing a PGCE. retraining his sorry ass he’s not going anywhere

 

[tonysingh]

I can see Fury beating Wilder like a old drum, then defeating Usyk and following that with a mega payday v AJ and retiring. There's really not much left for him.

 

[Numbers]

Presser from y/day.

 

[Numbers]

Finally watched the AJ v Usyk fight and I must say I really enjoyed it - it was a very skilful fight from Usyk, he was brilliant, unsurprisingly.

The only thing which impressed me about AJ was his stamina over the 12 - Usyk as the lighter man lacked punching power to really bother AJ, nor had any kind of a weight upper hand so for this scrap AJ was fit enough but he was never in the fight and couldn't pull the trigger because of Usyk's ring smarts.

Fury and/or Wilder would smash AJ to bits.

 

[Numbers]

I can see Fury beating Wilder like a old drum, then defeating Usyk and following that with a mega payday v AJ and retiring. There's really not much left for him.

Such is Heavyweight boxing I can see Wilder bursting Fury to bits tomorrow within 6, destroying Usyk in 2, destroying AJ in 4 then getting another draw with Fury in 12 in fight 4, before getting KO'd in 6 by Fury in fight 5, before Fury retires AJ in 7.

But it's all just Numbers innit

 

[Numbers]

Nothing to do with anything we're talking about, so just because..



I've watched this so many times (literally hundreds of times). I've watched it as a whole, and just watching each boxer individually, looking at the 4 main judging points, defense/offense, effective aggression, ring generalship, clean punching.

They all go out the window in a round like this and the camera work for most of the last minute shows the intensity of professional fighting better than any I've ever seen.

For the greatest rounds in boxing this is without question the greatest 1st round of all time.

Anyone want to suggest a round 2? see if we can get a 12 or 15 rounder together?

Cheers
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[bellaozzydog]

Such is Heavyweight boxing I can see Wilder bursting Fury to bits tomorrow within 6, destroying Usyk in 2, destroying AJ in 4 then getting another draw with Fury in 12 in fight 4, before getting KO'd in 6 by Fury in fight 5, before Fury retires AJ in 7.

But it's all just Numbers innit

The only one everyone really wants to see is Fury Joshua