FridgeMagnet
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oh god no
surely we have enough utter fucking drivel on this board already
surely we have enough utter fucking drivel on this board already
The 7/7 Report
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dennisr said:
So you have a conspiracy theory of your own.
I believe there is a constant push for global government. I believe the same interests behind the global banking system lie behind this movement. I believe the left right system is a distraction from core issues of basic liberty.
An interrelated upper class of families is running the world, not through telepathic powers or alien intervention but through the system of economics and media they erected.
I believe the monarchists never went away.
dennisr said:
Yes thats exactly what people who shout conspiraloon at anyone daring to question the media barrage do
I`m glad you`ve seen the light.
Bob_the_lost said:
No there is nothing suspicious about the fact that in every major terror event during this "war on terror", there happens to be a drill occurring the same morning simulating attacks at exactly the same places.
I can find the percentage chance if you`d like.
If you do some reading on false flag terrorism you`ll probably start to change your mind, not in regard to the drills on 7/7 but in regards to how easy it has proven in the past to seriously mislead public opinion using the same tested routines.
editor
hiraethified
No, what you actually said, was:Azrael23 said:
Now answer these questions please:Azrael23 said:
What's this 'radio chatter' you're babbling on about (the exercise was on paper)?
What were the names of these 'key departments' involved in this 'drill and who did they work for?'
What and who were these 'key operatives' who were moving about?
Oh, and how did this exercise taking place on paper in a corporate office provide a 'smokescreen' for invisible operatives to invisibly install these invisible bombs on tube trains?
FridgeMagnet said:
There is only one way to stop it. Say No!
Jazzz said:Well I'm not so sure which is the drivel and which isn't.
I think the only safe thing one can say about drivel on urban75 is that if you removed it all, there would hardly be any boards left
I thought this was the thread about the 7/7 report which is what I have been trying to discuss. I did say I'd ignore all the abuse and pop back when it was published.
It's just tough trying to discuss anything with people who put you in a conspiraloon box, and with an editor who sets the tone which unfortunately is really unpleasant. He's not unlike one of those teachers you hated at school who has his favourite pets (generally those that he agrees with).
KeyboardJockey
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Azrael23 said:I believe the same interests behind the global banking system lie behind this movement. I believe the left right system is a distraction from core issues of basic liberty.
An interrelated upper class of families is running the world, not through telepathic powers or alien intervention but through the system of economics and media they
Hmmm that sort of shit could have come straight out of the pages of Der Sturmer
editor
hiraethified
So why do you think that barely a soul believes your take on 7.7?Prole said:
Is it because:
(a) the beastly editor has dared question your selectively-compiled, research-lite claims and thus stopped 'the truth' coming out?
...or....
(b) because the vast majority here have read your wafflings and decided that you're another utterly obsessed conspiraloon who wouldn't know the truth if it came in a haddock-shaped package and slapped you about the face repeatedly?
I mean, many of us live in London, there's above average political awareness amongst most of the posters, some of us were even directly or indirectly involved in the horrors of 7/7, yet why do you think so few are giving your yarns the time of day?
Is it because - unlike you - we're all too stupid to see 'the truth' or is it because we're just gullible idiots who simply swallow anything the government tells us?
Why is it do you think that you've got barely any support here?
editor said:
Witnesses are notoriously poor Editor, that is a well known fact, 10 people seeing the same event will give wildly different accounts of what happened.
The reasons for doubting his word is perhaps because he was involved in a massive traumatic event and while he may believe totally what he says, that doesn't particularly mean that his version of what happened is accurate. If he was told this guy set off a bomb, perhaps his mind is filling in gaps, perhaps he looked at this guy and then a bomb went off, and his mind fills in the gaps that make it seem to him that this guy set off the bomb.
I am not defending the case that Prole is making as it isn't something I have looked at at any great length, but the points you are making above are extremely weak and well known to be extremely weak.
If there is CCTV camera footage, as I expect there is given the propensity for CCTV cameras in this country then perhaps some of it, that which wouldn't offend the victims or their families, should be made available.
editor
hiraethified
Not half as 'weak' as fact-free bullshit about paper exercises providing 'smokescreens' for invisible bombs to be installed on tube trains.Fong said:
While I'd agree remembering faces can be unreliable, the guy says he saw the bloke with the bag seconds before the bomb went off - and the fact that he lost his legs meant that there's no denying that he was very close to the bomb.
Either way, I've yet to see a single shred of credible evidence that supports any of the alternative <cough> 'theories' about the bombing being endlessly bandied about by conspiraloons.
But who knows - perhaps Azrael will finally answer my questions soon!
I don't know what my 'take' is exactly.editor said:
I would just expect something a bit better to come out of what we are told is a narrative based on police, intelligence and security agency reports than these men left Luton at 7.40 and reached KX at 8.23.
They can't have, no train left Luton at that time.
Just as the truth is owed to the people of Iraq for their pain and suffering, so truth and justice is owed to the survivors, the injured and families of the dead, the Muslim community and each and everyone one of us. Unless of course we are all so subservient now we'll swallow anything we're told.
Release the evidence! Show the images from Kings X from 7th July. Simple.
I think the images we have been shown of 3 of these young men visiting London on 28/6 appear to be valid and I've never questioned them. It is disgraceful that news channels are using them to overlay their stories about 7th July with the time straps removed as if to imply they are from the day. It does prove that they must have more than the one image of the 4 entering Luton on 7th July.editor said:
That's what i'd like to know.
Spending a moment trying to discover what the primary source was for the statment that the 7:40 train was cancelled, I disover:
- That very few of the conspiraloons' sites bother to indicate the source of anything;
- This enteraining instance of conspiraloons slagging each other off for having, er, the wrong conspiracy: wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/giving-conspiracy-theory-bad-name.html (do not link - copy and paste)
We need more of this (but not on these boards, obviously.
Prole said:
You actually don't know what the phrase primary source means, do you, you numpty?
BTW, I found a conspiraloon site reporting an email from Thameslink saying there was a train that left at 07:42. So you must accept this this is true, because it is asserted by someone "on your side".
Andy the Don
Wise men say only fools..
Azrael23 said:
okay.. how did they do it...??
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