The 7/7 Report

[laptop]

Surely if there's a conspiracy then the CCTV footage would be available to all and show a "perfect" explosion...

Well, no - you see the conspiranoids are much cleverer than the conspirators, or the rest of us.

Which is presumably why they're running the world and they're not.

 

[Blagsta]

That sounds more like the people who believe the official version than those like me that question the evidence.

Get a hobby, ffs.

 

[Blagsta]

What makes no sense is saying that evidence something is fake is actually evidence that it is genuine. This is the kind of perverse logic one gets programmed into.

Can anyone translate this for me?

 

[laptop]

Can anyone translate this for me?

Almost everyone else thinks differently from Jazzz and thinks he's bonkers. He knows he has the Revealed Truth. So the only explanation is that everyone else must have been "programmed". It's like we have voices that are so cunningly disguised by the lizards that we can't hear them. So everyone has voices and the conspiraloons are sane. QED.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Can anyone translate this for me?

He's implying it's an addaption of the big lie technique. That "it's too clumsy to be a fake" is a rather crap way of discounting information.

 

[editor]

How do you know thats the truth?

I said the CCTV on the 30 Bus was tampered with, ive already elaborated on that.

I must have missed the post where you posted up hard proof that the CCTV footage was tampered with. Could you remind me exactly how it was tampered with please and what independent, credible evidence you have of this happening?

Oh, and have you found your proof that de Menezes was working for LT on 7/7, as you suggested?

And I trust that you're now withdrawing all your bonkers claims about the exercises on 7/7 , yes?

 

[Blagsta]

He's implying it's an addaption of the big lie technique. That "it's too clumsy to be a fake" is a rather crap way of discounting information.

That's barking mad though. By that way of thinking, anything backs up the conspiracy theory, anything at all. Its pure paranoia.

 

[Blagsta]

We have the suspicious nature of the Du Menezes shooting. The reason I`m suspicious (not sure of course) that it could tie into 7/7 is because he was an electrician, was he sent to check out the "power surge", did he see something he shouldn`t of? I know this particular point is based on conjecture but "the mark of an educated mind is to entertain an idea without accepting it", don`t be afraid of conjecture!

You're barking mad as well.

 

[Blagsta]

Editor

Are you some kind of fucking plank? *annoyance sets in

I`m not saying there was radio chatter, im giving you scenarios as to why a drill MIGHT be used. MIGHT. The drill definitely happened which was denied by a poster prior to the response you posted. I`m saying it COULD have been used to cover the movements of security service operatives or to mislead anyone who say thought they heard people talking about bombs on their walky...

Now do you understand? The fucking drill doesn`t have to do anything... its put in place beforehand to ensure that anyone who sees something suspicious is put off doing anything about it.

Have you read anything i`ve posted without applying your goggles of conspiraloonery to the situation? I`ve been explicit about this three times since you initially started foaming at the mouth.....I know you can read so just shut up! I`m not CLAIMING anything you pompous fool, I`m SUGGESTING something....theres a difference. But please don`t let me stand in the way of your ego inspired rantings.

could, could, could...you're just as insane as Jazz, jumping on anything as evidence of conspiracy

 

[Blagsta]

The Du Menenezes shooting is equally suspicious. Why was an innocent man marked for death, the idea they thought he was a suicide bomber doesn`t wash with me.

I thought this was common knowledge by now. The person doing the stake out took a piss and the wrong man got followed.

 

[Jazzz]

That's barking mad though. By that way of thinking, anything backs up the conspiracy theory, anything at all. Its pure paranoia.

No it wasn't.

You implied that the worse the CCTV still looked, the more of a shoddy fake it appeared, the more it had to be considered genuine. I was simply pointing out that this is perverse logic (not the first time that has come up). It's you who is finding evidence where it doesn't exist.

 

[Blagsta]

No it wasn't.

You implied that the worse the CCTV still looked, the more of a shoddy fake it appeared, the more it had to be considered genuine.

Errrr...no I didn't.

I was simply pointing out that this is perverse logic (not the first time that has come up). It's you who is finding evidence where it doesn't exist.

Eh? Can anyone follow Jazzz's logic here?

 

[jæd]

No it wasn't.

You implied that the worse the CCTV still looked, the more of a shoddy fake it appeared, the more it had to be considered genuine. I was simply pointing out that this is perverse logic (not the first time that has come up). It's you who is finding evidence where it doesn't exist.

Um... Perhaps it is you that is *not* finding evidence for your barking notions because it doesn't exist...

 

[Jazzz]

Errrr...no I didn't.



Eh? Can anyone follow Jazzz's logic here?

Here's what you posted

Faking stuff in Photoshop is piece of piss! Why the hell would anyone fake it so badly? It makes no sense.

i.e. - you are implying that the CCTV still looking like a shoddy fake is reason to believe that it is genuine. Perverse logic.

 

[Blagsta]

Here's what you posted



i.e. - you are implying that the CCTV still looking like a shoddy fake is reason to believe that it is genuine. Perverse logic.

Errrr...what are you on about? You have a hard time with logic and following lines of thought don't you?

Look - prole (and you) reckon that the bad quality implies that the image is faked. I'm saying that, on the balance of probabilty, if you were going to go to all the trouble of faking CCTV footage in Photopshop, you'd make a good job of it. Photoshop is quite a good program for compositing.

But hey, you just jump on any old shite to back up your paranoia. It's funny, but also quite tragic.

 

[TAE]

You implied that the worse the CCTV still looked, the more of a shoddy fake it appeared, the more it had to be considered genuine. I was simply pointing out that this is perverse logic (not the first time that has come up). It's you who is finding evidence where it doesn't exist.

I said something like that and I explained why:
Generally speaking, someone who has nothing to hide will not be afraid to put out an image which looks a bit odd, but someone who is trying to fool the public will take much greater care.

 

[Badger Kitten]

It's a triple bluff!

It's so fake-looking it must be *really* fake , whilst pretending to be a badly-faked *real* still, because nobody would expect a fake to *look *fake, so it must be real! Only it isn't!

Do you see?
Do you?

Well?

Welcome to enlightenment, my friendly fellow truth-seeker!

It's not just a ropey old provincial camera blurrily catching 4 suicide bombers as they set off to catch a train to London, oh no. Even though 3 trains and a bus did mysteriously explode at the same time as these young men were on them, whilst they happened to be wearing rucksacks containing explosives, having driven down from a house containing home made bombs with their DNA and prints all over them, in a car full of home made bombs, and after a few of the men had been taped chatting about jihad, bomb-making and popping over to Pakistan to learn to make bombs.

That just happens to be a coincidence.

And the white plastic bag? Mysterious sandwiches, planted by M15, which were full of drugs which *made the young men get on a fake train whereby they were bumped off and blown up and then their body parts cunningly replaced on the 3 trains and the bus to make a case for ID cards and the speedy arrival of the New World Order.


* I have actually seen this theory on one of the sites Prole hangs about on. I kid you not. I added the sandwiches detail, myself through, because I am creative like that, and so are my M15 handlers.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Look! Loonery!

What really happened!....

Hera, I agree 100% with your assesment. That's exactly how I see it.

The only thing I'm not sure about, is how the men were "disposed" of.

They were either intercepted on the motorway early that morning, or were lured onto a fake train at Luton, which pulled off into the sidings, where they were whacked.

All the reports of fires and disruptions that morning were a cover until the powers knew that the patsies were dead, then they could release the "suicide bomber" news.

I am snorting with laughter, ah hahaha

 

[editor]

i.e. - you are implying that the CCTV still looking like a shoddy fake is reason to believe that it is genuine. Perverse logic.

It's obvious to me what he's saying.

 

[editor]

I am snorting with laughter, ah hahaha

"Lured onto a fake train at Luton..."

Priceless idiocy.

 

[Badger Kitten]

Just because I am not actually a crack team of M15 agents bugging your computer and following you about, Azrael23, doesn't mean that I am not after you. I can hear the voices in your head, and I am taping them. Mwah hah ha. You cannot hide. I have a file on you.

 

[TAE]

Badger Kitten - as you are spying on us all anyway, could you remind me what I had for lunch at work today?
I need to make sure I have a balanced diet.

 

[Badger Kitten]

You need to eat less cheese, TAE, and get your chlorestorol checked out. It's surprisingly high for your build.

 

[TAE]

You are right about me eating too much cheese, and yeah perhaps I have been spending far too much time on the boards -
I'm not getting enough exercise.

 

[axon]

"Lured onto a fake train at Luton..."

Priceless idiocy.

I am of the firm belief that this is the tip of the iceberg, could it not be the case that the so-called bombers were lured to a fake Luton?

 

[jæd]

I am of the firm belief that this is the tip of the iceberg, could it not be the case that the so-called bombers were lured to a fake Luton?

Fake iceberg, as well...?

 

[Badger Kitten]

Bastard M15 sunk the Titanic as well! Bastards! We have a lot to answer for!

 

[Badger Kitten]

Argh! 777 posts on the thread!

 

[Jazzz]

It's obvious to me what he's saying.

Well it would be.

I have some Picassos that you two might be interested in purchasing for a knock-down price.

 

[Blagsta]

Well it would be.

I have some Picassos that you two might be interested in purchasing for a knock-down price.

Errr...your sense of humour is as fucked as your sense of logic.