Evidence he wasn't on the plane would be much easier to get then evidence he was. That none has come out (like him saying he wasn't on it) is a strong indication he was. Unless he is using it as cover to go into hiding.
Think you're quite wrong about bimble there, just saying.
Hopefully a few sightings or possibly videos from the beyond otherwise it’s back to endless and dreary speculation regarding Putin’s health .
I'm sure he is dead, but him being alive will rank as one of the more plausible conspiracy theories out there. Although they will be wrong about one thing. He won't have planned it. If he wasn't on the plane it would be just luck or because he got word of something happening and after it went down he fucked off into hiding.
Maybe he swapped planes with his daughter
A coup attempt was in motion. You might not have got pissed there, but Rostov is has a population of over a million and is a major military command centre, but it fell to Wagner who went on to send their troops halfway to Moscow. The fact that the Wagner Putsch failed doesn't mean it didn't happen. It was an indication of the regime's weakness, as was the prevarication, up until today over its leader. This assassination and whatever has happened to Surovikin are unlikely to make it any stronger.
That the Russian state says he is dead is the strongest argument he is alive.
Prigozhin and co. might have been making some kind of point, but it wasn't a serious coup attempt for reasons already outlined. It couldn't possibly have succeeded. Nobody but the people involved really know anything about the reasons for the subsequent apparent prevarication. You may well turn out to be right, and I wrong, but if the regime is weak who is poised to take over?
My parents had a travel agency and for several years during the seventies and organised much of the international travel arrangements for Lebanese warlord Major Hadad and his family
I dont think its that unusual for their successes to go to their head, and for that to interfere with their decision making. He overestimated himself.
High stakes strong-arm blow-hard approaches to life require those sorts of gambles.
It isn't funny really though, is it? Not like the Two Ronnies or Peep Show are funny (or can be.) It's just history repeating itself as tragedy in new but recognisable forms, and there is no end to it. We can only laugh as we're not involved but inattentively watching it like a sometimes compelling TV drama.Someone who’d managed to climb to such position of power and influence clearly can’t be that stupid or naive. So I continue to struggle to understand his mindset when he decided to go for broke with the coup, and in particular what made him call it off so quickly.
I don’t buy the argument that he called it all off to avoid Russian blood being spilled. Only a complete idiot would have expected the entirety of the Russian AF to disobey orders. If anything, I reckon he would have been astonished at the ease and bloodless manner his forces had been progressing in the first day. Before launching the coup, even if he genuinely thought he could reach Moscow and take over the Kremlin, there’s no way he wasn’t expecting heavy casualties on both sides.
What the fuck was he told that afternoon that made him change his mind? He probably knew Putin more intimately than most others. Either you think someone you’ve known for many years is likely to, say, go nuclear, or you don’t. Surely he would have considered Putin’s likely reaction to a coup and decided he would be bluffing about any doomsday threats he might predictably make on the day?
And worse still, was he really that fucking naive to think that Putin was going to honour any peace agreement after he handed him the biggest humiliation of his life? Perhaps an assassination would have been unavoidable in the long term, but at least don’t fucking return to Russia ffs
Funny as fuck anyway. And good riddance.
It wasn't a coup because it didn't succeed. It was an attempted coup. As to being a "mutiny", it wasn't an internal revolt against the military authorities by those of a lower rank. It was an attempt by an organised autonomous military entity to change, by force, the government.
Remember that the target of his coup was the military leadership, not Putin. He was (mostly) critical of military leadership for misleading Putin, only rarely having harsh words for the ‘boss’. Given his closeness to Putin maybe he felt protected? Maybe he expected others to join his mutiny, yet they didn’t step up (there were reports of families being threatened, which may have curtailed this). After delivering Bakhmut he may have thought he had some status he could bank on. That may have been what kept him alive after the march on Moscow halted.Someone who’d managed to climb to such position of power and influence clearly can’t be that stupid or naive. So I continue to struggle to understand his mindset when he decided to go for broke with the coup, and in particular what made him call it off so quickly.
I don’t buy the argument that he called it all off to avoid Russian blood being spilled. Only a complete idiot would have expected the entirety of the Russian AF to disobey orders. If anything, I reckon he would have been astonished at the ease and bloodless manner his forces had been progressing in the first day. Before launching the coup, even if he genuinely thought he could reach Moscow and take over the Kremlin, there’s no way he wasn’t expecting heavy casualties on both sides.
What the fuck was he told that afternoon that made him change his mind? He probably knew Putin more intimately than most others. Either you think someone you’ve known for many years is likely to, say, go nuclear, or you don’t. Surely he would have considered Putin’s likely reaction to a coup and decided he would be bluffing about any doomsday threats he might predictably make on the day?
And worse still, was he really that fucking naive to think that Putin was going to honour any peace agreement after he handed him the biggest humiliation of his life? Perhaps an assassination would have been unavoidable in the long term, but at least don’t fucking return to Russia ffs
Funny as fuck anyway. And good riddance.
