The 2023 Russian Coup.

[JimW]

Being anywhere near the window would have been foolhardy.

Wouldn't want to miss how all looks so tiny, like little ants! Hang on, they're suddenly getting bigger.

 

[ruffneck23]

 

[planetgeli]

He can’t have been that thick, he ran successful restaurants, that’s hard logistics.

Not sure running successful restaurants/any business in Russia post-Soviet collapse is necessarily down to hard logistics. It's not all about the quality of the fish sauce and getting it there. Other variables were available.

 

[petee]

‘Dissident’
God bless the yanks

careful, that's Murdoch media.
(((us yanks)))

 

[RD2003]

the media in the uk during the half day coup and after were basically framing him and wagner as some kind of rebels deserving of support....those pictures of him smiling and shaking hands were the dominant ones (repeated again in that tweet)

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for anyone who didnt know better i saw no mention in the reporting of who these people really were and what they really get up to.....

As pointed out on the day, many posters who had previously expressed outrage at the murdering rapists of Wagner could hardly contain their joy at what was happening, reflecting the online war enthusiast community as a whole. A minority on here, meanwhile, pointed out that it didn't appear to be a serious coup, and couldn't possibly succeed. We will likely never know the truth about these events, but nobody seemed to consider how a few thousand mercenaries were going to take over the whole of Russia when no prominent political or military figures had publicly expressed support even tentatively, and seemingly no groundwork had been laid.

 

[bimble]

Can't understand why so many people assume that Prigozhin particularly cared whether he lived or died. Not everybody does, and that may be more the case among those who have seen life as it is in the world he moved in.

What a weird post.
Maybe you’re right and he was completely nonchalant about it either way, so that in his last moments, plummeting to the earth, he was thinking oh well, never mind eh I wasn’t that into living anyhoo. What’s your point?

 

[ska invita]

right, we need a picture of that neo nazi mass murderer funded by the russian state......
lets go for that one where he's happy and smiling whilst taking a selfie with someone

 

[not-bono-ever]

Its performance . He could have topped him in any number of ways but this is a display. Putin is fucked now I think.

 

[two sheds]

Wouldn't want to miss how all looks so tiny, like little ants! Hang on, they're suddenly getting bigger.

"I wonder whether it will be friends with me"

 

[RD2003]

What a weird post.
Maybe you’re right and he was completely nonchalant about it either way, so that in his last moments, plummeting to the earth, he was thinking oh well, never mind eh I wasn’t that into living anyhoo. What’s your point?

I wasn't talking about his last moments, which may well have differed from his general attitude. In fact they almost certainly would have.

If he is indeed dead.

 

[xenon]

What a weird post.
Maybe you’re right and he was completely nonchalant about it either way, so that in his last moments, plummeting to the earth, he was thinking oh well, never mind eh I wasn’t that into living anyhoo. What’s your point?

I was going to reply to his post but bit pointless. His point is always the same. Aside swipe at urban posters and his he knows better miserable ism.

 

[bimble]

I wasn't talking about his last moments.

Ok. Thought you might have been seeing as they’re what just happened.

 

[Raheem]

Can't understand why so many people assume that Prigozhin particularly cared whether he lived or died.

Well, not everyone has the insight of having visited Russia 30 years ago.

 

[RD2003]

Well, not everyone has the insight of having visited Russia 30 years ago.

Nothing to do with anything I've just said.

 

[Raheem]

Nothing to do with anything I've just said.

I didn't read to the end, I just rolled my eyes and assumed.

 

[RD2003]

Ok. Thought you might have been seeing as they’re what just happened.

Like too many, you seem to make the mistake of assuming that not only does everybody think like you, it is actually the right way to think.

 

[The39thStep]

Everyone is the father of hindsight

 

[bimble]

How will this be received by a sort of average Russian watching events unfold? Find it hard to imagine thinking this makes putin look good, or strong, but maybe it does? I don’t understand the context in which it will get understood there.

 

[bimble]

Like too many, you seem to make the mistake of assuming that not only does everybody think like you, it is actually the right way to think.

I am very interested in your opinion about me.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

How will this be received by a sort of average Russian watching events unfold? Find it hard to imagine thinking this makes putin look good, or strong, but maybe it does? I don’t understand the context in which it will get understood there.

Isn’t it meant to make everyone fear Putin rather than admire him?

 

[RD2003]

How will this be received by a sort of average Russian watching events unfold? Find it hard to imagine thinking this makes putin look good, or strong, but maybe it does? I don’t understand the context in which it will get understood there.

This article, also linked to further up the thread, may provide some clues. Putin’s Age of Chaos

 

[tim]

the media in the uk during the half day coup and after were basically framing him and wagner as some kind of rebels deserving of support....those pictures of him smiling and shaking hands were the dominant ones (repeated again in that tweet)

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for anyone who didnt know better i saw no mention in the reporting of who these people really were and what they really get up to.....

That's probably reflection of the media that you consume.

 

[planetgeli]

Putin is fucked now I think.

Why?

How will this be received by a sort of average Russian watching events unfold?

Average is a moveable concept. If you mean 'on the whole' by 'those who give a shit and aren't too busy trying to feed themselves and afford shit', then IMO, positively. Traitor to Mother Russia etc.

Find it hard to imagine thinking this makes putin look good, or strong, but maybe it does?

It makes him look very strong. To those who support him. Who are not an insignificant number across the globe. As well as in Russia.

 

[Raheem]

Isn’t it meant to make everyone fear Putin rather than admire him?

Difficult to know how many Russians think what, but it's fairly hard to imagine they don't know what Putin is like. And yet he does have many admirers, at home and abroad.

 

[The39thStep]

Isn’t it meant to make everyone fear Putin rather than admire him?

Vote Putin to keep out the fascists

 

[bimble]

Isn’t it meant to make everyone fear Putin rather than admire him?

Looks like that from here of course yeah. But I thought he also still wants to be adored, be pictured in ecstatic crowds kissing peoples babies etc. And power by fear alone isn’t very secure, but idk maybe they’re not so mutually incompatible as it seems from a distance.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

He can’t have been that thick, he ran successful restaurants, that’s hard logistics.

Paddy Power has Raymond Blanc at 3:1 to be next Wagner chief….

 

[RD2003]

Looks like that from here of course yeah. But I thought he also still wants to be adored, be pictured in ecstatic crowds kissing peoples babies etc. And power by fear alone isn’t very secure, but idk maybe they’re not so mutually incompatible as it seems from a distance.

His power doesn't derive from fear alone.

 

[teqniq]

Short but sweet:

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Difficult to know how many Russians think what, but it's fairly hard to imagine they don't know what Putin is like. And yet he does have many admirers, at home and abroad.

Indeed. Almost every Russian polled said how much they admired him.