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Currently they’re bailing out the airlines but not Eurostar, which is an inconsistent position.
 
Currently they’re bailing out the airlines but not Eurostar, which is an inconsistent position.
Are the airline bailouts based on the ownership of the airline companies, or are they based on the routes they serve? In other words are they helping out UK-owned airlines, or airlines that fly routes to the UK?

Reason I ask is that I think Eurostar is almost entirely foreign owned now - SNCF and SNCB have stakes I think. So which countries should it be seeking assistance from?
 
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Are the airline bailouts based on the ownership of the airline companies, or are they based on the routes they serve? In other words are they helping out UK-owned airlines, or airlines that fly routes to the UK?

Reason I ask is that I think Eurostar is almost entirely foreign owned now - SNCF and SNCB have stakes I think. So which countries should it be seeking assistance from?
Airline bailouts are mixed- routes and ownership. IAG- BA’s owner- is Anglo Spanish with a Madrid HQ, for example.
 
Currently they’re bailing out the airlines but not Eurostar, which is an inconsistent position.


UK airlines haven't been bailed out by the UK government.

BA's owner IAG took some money from the Spanish government. But that covers Iberia and Aer Lingus.

Virgin raised money from shareholders.
 
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I didn’t realize (until someone at work educated me!) that if airlines collapse the hit actually goes into the banking industry- payments people like Visa and MasterCard and PayPal (and us) have to refund people’s flights but have no way to get all the money back from anyone. There is very limited insurance....

So basically the pressure on the governments for bailouts was coming from financial services as much as anyone else.
 
I didn’t realize (until someone at work educated me!) that if airlines collapse the hit actually goes into the banking industry- payments people like Visa and MasterCard and PayPal (and us) have to refund people’s flights but have no way to get all the money back from anyone. There is very limited insurance....

So basically the pressure on the governments for bailouts was coming from financial services as much as anyone else.


Credit cards yes, debit cards it is very limited. If buying directly from the airline use a credit card. For all >£100 online purchases use a credit card.
 
Though London-Paris a one day race probably a bit much for cyclists. The longest one-day race in cycling is the Milan-Sanremo, which is just under 300kms. But you could London-Lens or Amiens-Dover. I vote for the latter as you could have epic last stretch of a sprint in the tunnel with all flashing lights and stuff
 

"On the night of 2/3 December 1994,[9][10] a group of professional and semi-professional cyclists went road bicycle racing from London to Paris in aid of Téléthon en France '94 broadcast live on French national television.[11][12] This 1994 peloton was led by Henri Sannier and accompanied by Jean-Michel Guidez,[13] Patrick Chêne,[14] Jean Mamère, Marc Toesca,[15] Thierry Marie,[14] Paul Belmondo,[14] Bernard Darniche,[14] Jean-François Guiborel[16] and others. The group used the service tunnel to cross the channel between Folkestone and Coquelles, accompanied by a STTS vehicle. "
 
I am a big fan of the Eurostar service. So much nicer than flying (and airports) and had some great trips/journeys.

After my parents separated my Dad (who is lovely but was a bit rubbish parenting) organised some 'bonding' trips with me :D we went over to Paris when I was about 19/20 and it was exciting.

Managed to blag (with my ABTA card) a few first class upgrades and shared a table with Damien Hirst.

£59 to Paris (#haggle price) is a bargain.
 
I am a big fan of the Eurostar service. So much nicer than flying (and airports) and had some great trips/journeys.

After my parents separated my Dad (who is lovely but was a bit rubbish parenting) organised some 'bonding' trips with me :D we went over to Paris when I was about 19/20 and it was exciting.

Managed to blag (with my ABTA card) a few first class upgrades and shared a table with Damien Hirst.

£59 to Paris (#haggle price) is a bargain.


When Frau Bahn and I were young lovers back in 2001 we went to Paris for a teknival in first class on Eurostar (agent discount). In our best free party gear, me with a large record bag, four noisome Americans were across the aisle from us. We on a table of two, they on a four, this was when they had the lovely lamps by the window and the food was edible. Anyway we got going and were happily smoking away when one of our colonial cousins started to get agitated, saying to his fellow travellers that he didn't think smoking was allowed. When the attendant came through he asked about it, the attendant saw straight away what was happening and replied with his lovely French accent, "Sir, we are heading to France, everyone must smoke!" and they gave us two small bottles of champers each.
 
When Frau Bahn and I were young lovers back in 2001 we went to Paris for a teknival in first class on Eurostar (agent discount). In our best free party gear, me with a large record bag, four noisome Americans were across the aisle from us. We on a table of two, they on a four, this was when they had the lovely lamps by the window and the food was edible. Anyway we got going and were happily smoking away when one of our colonial cousins started to get agitated, saying to his fellow travellers that he didn't think smoking was allowed. When the attendant came through he asked about it, the attendant saw straight away what was happening and replied with his lovely French accent, "Sir, we are heading to France, everyone must smoke!" and they gave us two small bottles of champers each.

This story is annoying if it's made up and even more annoying if it isn't.
 
This story is annoying if it's made up and even more annoying if it isn't.


It's not made up, the Yanks could have bought tickets in one of the many non-smoking carriages. But you'll be happy to learn I lost my glasses at the party and had to make my way back to Paris almost blind and then missed the return train to London and had to buy a new ticket; which is somewhere that Eurostar has always been shit, when you need to change a restricted ticket, or god forbid you miss a train, they accept no excuses and just hammer you for a brand new ticket, in a way that airlines just don't unless you're obnoxious to the ticket desk agent.
 
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