About the 20mph speed limit in Wales built up areas? Which goes live tonight..

[planetgeli]

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I know right?

Google it. It's the law.

 

[hash tag]

Built up areas...

Built-up area (Highway Code) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

This would be a reasonable argument in London, which is quite easy to recognise by looking out of the window.

why would you do this while driving, surely the speedometer is what you focus on.

 

[skyscraper101]

Just drive caerphilly alright.

 

[hash tag]

why would you do this while driving, surely the speedometer is what you focus on.

I tend to focus on the road and the things going on around me which is a great way to prevent having an accident.

 

[Orang Utan]

Surely no road user should be focussing on one thing exclusively but be aware of all these things

 

[teqniq]

Interesting bit of investigative reportage here. There are 4 anti 20 mph Facebook groups covering Wales and, up until very recently the admins for these groups were conservative politicians based in England who also on their own turf are actually pro 20 mph:

Thread by @WillHayCardiff on Thread Reader App

@WillHayCardiff: So I have been having a little look at the people who run some of the Welsh anti-20mph Facebook groups. It seems that many of them a run by Tory politicians.... who live in England....and...…

threadreaderapp.com

 

[ddraig]

Average speed down by 4mph

Wales' 20mph limit: Average speed down 4mph after switch

The new limit has proved controversial and led to protests, while ministers say it will save lives.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[danny la rouge]

Delighted to see this news.

 

[8ball]

Delighted to see this news.

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Puffins.

 

[Spymaster]

As accurately predicted by myself some time ago, the Welsh are beginning to realise that the blanket 20mph is fucking bonkers!

"We fucked up. As usual, Spymaster was absolutely right all along" admits Welsh government!

 

[Saul Goodman]

"We fucked up. As usual, Spymaster was absolutely right all along" admits Welsh government!

Swansea council leader Rob Stewart welcomed the change, but said the government must help foot the bill to swap signage.

Anyone with half an ounce of sense would have kept the old speed limit signs in a lock-up, as it should have been obvious to any fule that most of them would be getting reinstated.

 

[Spymaster]

Anyone with half an ounce of sense would have kept the old speed limit signs in a lock-up, as it should have been obvious to any fule that most of them would be getting reinstated.

Just sentence the fucking carrots who thought this was a good idea to community service. Make them swap them back.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Just sentence the fucking carrots who thought this was a good idea, to community service. Make them swap them back.

Just those who had a vote on the idiotic idea, or all supporters?

 

[hash tag]

Slightly off piste I know; nearly every road in Wandsworth now has a 20 limit. There is only one road I can think off that hasn't been changed yet is part of the A214.

 

[8ball]

"We fucked up. As usual, Spymaster was absolutely right all along" admits Welsh government!

I’m not sure they even know about you tbf.

 

[edcraw]

Who’d have imagined…

Car crash casualties in Wales fall after 20mph limit brought in

Things are 'moving in the right direction,' the transport minister said

www.walesonline.co.uk

 

[ddraig]

20mph row: Labour minister tweeted 'Tories happy children killed'

Labour minister Mick Antoniw posted the comments during angry exchange over default speed limit.

www.bbc.co.uk

A senior Welsh government politician is set to be reprimanded for tweeting “Tories so happy to see people and particularly children killed and injured on our roads".

 

[8ball]

20mph row: Labour minister tweeted 'Tories happy children killed'

Labour minister Mick Antoniw posted the comments during angry exchange over default speed limit.

www.bbc.co.uk

A senior Welsh government politician is set to be reprimanded for tweeting “Tories so happy to see people and particularly children killed and injured on our roads".

Does sound like a bit of a twat.

 

[Elpenor]

Drove through a 20mph zone in Exeter yesterday. Felt the right speed for driving down roads with pedestrian crossings, speed bumps, lots of parked cars to be honest

Really should be 20mph for every residential area nationwide. Might stick to 20mph for the future in residential areas myself

 

[Sasaferrato]

Drove through a 20mph zone in Exeter yesterday. Felt the right speed for driving down roads with pedestrian crossings, speed bumps, lots of parked cars to be honest

Really should be 20mph for every residential area nationwide. Might stick to 20mph for the future in residential areas myself

Don't. You will be run into from behind.

Irrespective of the speed limit, the safe speed is the traffic flow speed. Driving more slowly or more quickly than the flow speed raises your risk of having a collision. Note that I don't say 'accident', few collisions or other adverse events are accidental. Skidding on spilled diesel and going off the road is an accident. Hitting a sheep whilst doing 90 in a 60 zone isn't.

 

[Elpenor]

Speed limit is a limit, not a guide, if someone is speeding that is their problem as they’re breaking the law, and failing to pay attention.

 

[edcraw]

Don't. You will be run into from behind.

Bloody hell - if this is the standard we expect of drivers it really does highlight how we need to drastically reduce the practice!

 

[RevolutionSound]

Don't. You will be run into from behind.

Irrespective of the speed limit, the safe speed is the traffic flow speed. Driving more slowly more quickly than the flow speed raises your risk of having a collision. Note that I don't say 'accident', few collisions or other adverse events are accidental. Skidding on spilled diesel and going off the road is an accident. Hitting a sheep whilst doing 90 in a 60 zone isn't.

This is terrible advice. If the traffic flow is greater than the speed limit, you go at the speed limit. Otherwise you can get done for speeding.

 

[Sasaferrato]

This is terrible advice. If the traffic flow is greater than the speed limit, you go at the speed limit. Otherwise you can get done for speeding.

 

[hash tag]

Irrespective of the speed limit, the safe speed is the traffic flow speed

The correct speed to drive at is one that is the speed limit and/or one that is safe for the conditions. If the road is narrow with lots of parked cars on either side and a school is just turning out 30 might not be advisable even if that is the allowed limit.

 

[edcraw]

The correct speed to drive at is one that is the speed limit and/or one that is safe for the conditions. If the road is narrow with lots of parked cars on either side and a school is just turning out 30 might not be advisable even if that is the allowed limit.

No - it is one that is safe for the conditions up to the speed limit.

 

[alex_]

Don't. You will be run into from behind.

Irrespective of the speed limit, the safe speed is the traffic flow speed. Driving more slowly or more quickly than the flow speed raises your risk of having a collision. Note that I don't say 'accident', few collisions or other adverse events are accidental. Skidding on spilled diesel and going off the road is an accident. Hitting a sheep whilst doing 90 in a 60 zone isn't.

Try talking to your insuror about this and claiming that you weren’t at fault for running into a car doing 20 in a 30 zone.

( good luck )

Alex

 

[hash tag]

No - it is one that is safe for the conditions up to the speed limit.

You are really going to drive down a narrow street with children coming out of school at 30mph, come what may?The speed limit is the maximum allowed speed limit. It's not a target or a challenge.

 

[RevolutionSound]

You are really going to drive down a narrow street with children coming out of school at 30mph, come what may?The speed limit is the maximum allowed speed limit. It's not a target or a challenge.

Yes, that's what he's saying "safe for the conditions"