Should the fox hunting ban be lifted?

[Calamity1971]

The one that lived at the bottom of my road was hardly defenseless - big ex racehorse and I'd I've been booted into the next county if I'd tried even a fraction of that arsery.
The one in the video looked fairly submissive and gentle to me, though. More than anything, it makes me about how the horses in that hunt group generally get treated when cameras aren't rolling.

Footage of them hunting wankers shooting their own hounds if they don't perform. Hardly surprising they have zero empathy for their steeds.

 

[StoneRoad]

The one that lived at the bottom of my road was hardly defenseless - big ex racehorse and I'd I've been booted into the next county if I'd tried even a fraction of that arsery.
The one in the video looked fairly submissive and gentle to me, though. More than anything, it makes me about how the horses in that hunt group generally get treated when cameras aren't rolling.

Not sure about the Cottesmore ... but hunts, in general, have a woeful record for animal abuse. If the way they treat hounds is any indication, as soon as any animal presents as being any sort of problem it'll be shot. There's plenty of accounts / images of hounds being disposed of for having one of any number of faults. Very few hounds older than six or seven in a breed that can live to 12 or more ... and very few "retired" hounds.

Wasn't able to do anything about it, other than report the incident, but one of the Redcoats from one of the hunts around here fell off one Saturday a few years ago. The nag bolted & was returned by the whipper-in. The redcoat then thrashed the horse with a riding crop [around the head] for some minutes, before remounting and the hunt moved off again, as they noticed the audience [extra cars in with the followers] ...

 

[8ball]

Footage of them hunting wankers shooting their own hounds if they don't perform. Hardly surprising they have zero empathy for their steeds.

Yeah, it mostly made me wonder whether this is just how they generally admonish horses, and they plan to use the "bad apple" defense and quietly go back to their usual ways.

 

[Badgers]

Not sure that I agree with people losing jobs. If it’s against her terms and conditions then obviously she must. But the desire for it to happen doesn’t sit right with me. Are people more likely to reflect and change by having their means of survival removed from them?

Fuck her

 

[cupid_stunt]

Well it’s usually ‘bringing the company name into disrepute’ or some such covers it.
But all this demand for job losses gets on my nerves. It can play the other way round you know?

I've haven't called for her to get sacked, that's a matter for the school.

But, serious question, having seen her attack that horse, would you take the risk of her doing the same with a child?

 

[Badgers]

I've haven't called for her to get sacked, that's a matter for the school.

But, serious question, having seen her attack that horse, would you take the risk of her doing the same with a child?

I look forward to the posh parents input regards little Tarquin being left alone with her. Especially given the money they pay per term.

 

[Pickman's model]

Anyway in answer to the q in the op, yes the ban should be lifted so the likes of Liam Fox and Claire Fox can be ridden down with hounds. As for the four-footed foxes, let the ban remain

 

[Saul Goodman]

I look forward to the posh parents input regards little Tarquin being left alone with her. Especially given the money they pay per term.

They probably ride with her and beat her horse when she gets tired.

 

[8ball]

Anyway in answer to the q in the op, yes the ban should be lifted to Liam Fox and Claire Fox can be ridden down with hounds. As for the four-footed foxes, let the ban remain

Laurence Fox to be humanely tracked down and shot?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I've haven't called for her to get sacked, that's a matter for the school.

But, serious question, having seen her attack that horse, would you take the risk of her doing the same with a child?

Not excusing her but pretty certain horses take a greater thrashing during races. That’s the entire purpose of a crop.

 

[Pickman's model]

Laurence Fox to be humanely tracked down and shot?

If he's lucky

 

[cupid_stunt]

Not excusing her but pretty certain horses take a greater thrashing during races. That’s the entire purpose of a crop.

You are also not answering my question.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

You are also not answering my question.

Someone who beats horses might beat kids? You’re asking me to speculate?

 

[Pickman's model]

Someone who beats horses might beat kids? You’re asking me to speculate?

Speculation is our meat and drink

A long time member like you should be aware of that

 

[cupid_stunt]

Someone who beats horses might beat kids? You’re asking me to speculate?

No, I am not asking you to speculate on if she might beat kids, the question is very clear...

But, serious question, having seen her attack that horse, would you take the risk of her doing the same with a child?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

No, I am not asking you to speculate on if she might beat kids, the question is very clear...

But, serious question, having seen her attack that horse, would you take the risk of her doing the same with a child?

It’s not down to me though is it? I can simultaneously oppose how some on here relish the prospect of loss of livelihood as proportionate vs agreeing with the school going through its own safe guarding procedures.

 

[Calamity1971]

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Laurence Fox to be humanely tracked down and shot?

Humanely?

 

[Calamity1971]

Not excusing her but pretty certain horses take a greater thrashing during races. That’s the entire purpose of a crop.

? Oh come on. The woman was kicking/ punching and slapping. You can't compare the two. Even as someone who personally believes horse racing should be banned even I can see the fucking difference.
British horse racing is regulated to a degree.
The whip may only be used on the horse’s body where, in the context of the race, it will not cause pain.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

? Oh come on. The woman was kicking/ punching and slapping. You can't compare the two. Even as someone who personally believes horse racing should be banned even I can see the fucking difference.
British horse racing is regulated to a degree.
The whip may only be used on the horse’s body where, in the context of the race, it will not cause pain.

Horses DIE in horse racing. Anyone been prosecuted?
No, but let’s get a school teacher sacked. Lol

 

[Pickman's model]

Horses DIE in horse racing. Anyone been prosecuted?
No, but let’s get a school teacher sacked. Lol

To be fair sarah moulds has done the heavy lifting here, she's going to be sacked if sacked she is for smacking the horse not for what we've said here

 

[Calamity1971]

Horses DIE in horse racing. Anyone been prosecuted?
No, but let’s get a school teacher sacked. Lol

No, and that's why it should be banned. But that has nothing to do with the horse puncher moulds. She should be sacked/ fined and never be allowed animals again.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Horses DIE in horse racing. Anyone been prosecuted?
No, but let’s get a school teacher sacked. Lol

Which has fuck all to do with this case.

You have got on your high horse over calls for her sacking, without consideration of the risk factor, and you are wiggling around with strawmen, to avoid answering the question of would you trust her to be in charge of kids.

Personally, no matter how low the risk may be, I wouldn't put my neck on the line and let her to continue in that job.

 

[iona]

You have got on your high horse

and you are wiggling around with strawmen

Rein it in

 

[iona]

Or are you gonna keep trotting out these bad puns

 

[Calamity1971]

I look forward to the posh parents input regards little Tarquin being left alone with her. Especially given the money they pay per term.

I'm almost certain I read that the school help fund the hunt. She'll likely be sacked because of the outcry and not on their principles.

 

[Saul Goodman]

I'm almost certain I read that the school help fund the hunt. She'll likely be sacked because of the outcry and not on their principles.

Assuming they don't just wait for the heat to dissipate before reinstating her.

 

[Pickman's model]

Rein it in

He's got the bit between his teeth

 

[Calamity1971]

Assuming they don't just wait for the heat to dissipate before reinstating her.

One would hope there are some parents who won't allow it. Doubtful though.

 

[Calamity1971]

He's got the bit between his teeth

Hay. Leave him alone.

 

[Pickman's model]

Hay. Leave him alone.

Neigh neigh and thrice neigh