Shots fired outside Houses of Parliament

[William of Walworth]

Edit : littlebabyjesus : why bother even attempting to get this back on track until this serial troller, and former banned returner, ends up rebanned?

(Not saying your post isn't a good contribution, but you know ... )

 

[Shechemite]

The Elephant in the Room

You make a good, if perhaps unintended, point about why it's so shit to be 'remotely diagnosing' those is in be public eye.

 

[coley]

I will readialy admitt to bee clueless in the application of english , oh fuck off im knackered
wTF is that anyway!?

 

[William of Walworth]

Bicycle! (Derailleur gear system ... )

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Edit : littlebabyjesus : why bother even attempting to get this back on track until this serial troller, and former banned returner, ends up rebanned?

(Not saying your post isn't a good contribution, but you know ... )

Plenty of people don't look at things in this way, don't see past the religious justification, not just trolls on here. Plenty of politicians either don't see past it or choose to present themselves as not seeing past it, as that would mean widening the discussion, turning stopping terrorism into something that requires changing the foreign policy of warmongering states like the United Kingdom.

I've been on media blackout today, but I'm willing to bet a goodly amount that not a squeak of this kind of analysis has been mentioned on mainstream media sources.

 

[William of Walworth]

(some crap)

No, you came out with a ridiculous statement and you are doing a really shit job of defending it.

He's doing a fairly shit job of doing what he really intends here, as well ....

 

[coley]

You make a good, if perhaps unintended, point about why it's so shit to be 'remotely diagnosing' those is in be public eye.

Intended, given the public utterances of the person involved, only.

 

[William of Walworth]

Plenty of people don't look at things in this way, don't see past the religious justification, not just trolls on here. Plenty of politicians either don't see past it or choose to present themselves as not seeing past it, as that would mean widening the discussion, turning stopping terrorism into something that requires changing the foreign policy of warmongering states like the United Kingdom.

I actually agree with you on all of this this, by the way.

It can only be 'by the way' at the moment though ....

 

[Smoking kills]

Idle thoughts?

The killer is dead, makes 5.

He was British, with a name to match.

DPAC were on that bridge for hours last year.

 

[J Ed]

Interesting that the attacker had a history of non-political criminality (assaults etc) prior to the attack, seems to be a very common factor in jihadist terrorists.

 

[green.tea]

Interesting that the attacker had a history of non-political criminality (assaults etc) prior to the attack, seems to be a very common factor in jihadist terrorists.

Was born Adrian Elms according to the latest BBC report. Looks like he may have been a convert. It also says he was convicted of a knife crime. Knife crime presumably involves jail? Its pretty well known that jail is a jihadist recruiting ground, which is probably a reason for the common factor.

London attack: 'Final' photo of killed PC Keith Palmer emerges - BBC News

 

[bi0boy]

Interesting that the attacker had a history of non-political criminality (assaults etc) prior to the attack, seems to be a very common factor in jihadist terrorists.

A third of men have a criminal record. It's hardly surprising that someone clearly willing to commit a violent act would have a criminal record.

 

[bi0boy]

Its pretty well known that jail is a jihadist recruiting ground, which is probably a reason for the common factor.

Or perhaps it was the four years he spent in Saudi Arabia...

 

[green.tea]

Or perhaps it was the four years he spent in Saudi Arabia...

Sounds plausable. Where did you read that?

 

[green.tea]

London terrorist used to go by the name Adrian and once stabbed a man in the FACE

 

[J Ed]

London terrorist used to go by the name Adrian and once stabbed a man in the FACE

Please don't link The Sun

 

[tim]

Interesting that the attacker had a history of non-political criminality (assaults etc) prior to the attack, seems to be a very common factor in jihadist terrorists.

And middle-aged men with a grudge against society. If he wasn't a Muslim this would be seen as a case of someone going postal.

 

[green.tea]

Please don't link The Sun

It's not a great paper. But I doubt theyre lying about the saudi arabia thing. Although I've not seen that info on the BBC.

 

[High Voltage]

It's a cunts paper. Read by cunts. Written by cunts and printed by scabs

 

[High Voltage]

Ooops. Almost forgot. Owned by a cunt

 

[green.tea]

It's a cunts paper. Read by cunts. Written by cunts and printed by scabs

I think "read by cunts" is a bit strong.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

I think "read by cunts" is a bit strong.

If you buy the Scum, you're a cunt.

 

[High Voltage]

I think "read by cunts" is a bit strong.

If you've paid money to a cunt to read it then, imho, well, you know how this is going to end

 

[green.tea]

If you buy the Scum, you're a cunt.

Personally I like to use google news and get info from various sources on there whilst understanding their varying biases. I can't imagine buying a paper that I know shares my biases unless I was to consider that my views are totally right now so I don't want them challenged with conflicting view points, which isn't the case at all.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

And middle-aged men with a grudge against society. If he wasn't a Muslim this would be seen as a case of someone going postal.

And if he was a Jainist and we had had years of Jainist-inspired terrorist activity as a backdrop, no doubt this would be seen as a case of Jainist-inspired terrorist activity.

 

[J Ed]

And if he was a Jainist and we had had years of Jainist-inspired terrorist activity as a backdrop, no doubt this would be seen as a case of Jainist-inspired terrorist activity.

Lack of onions would make me very angry

 

[Artaxerxes]

To drag this back on track, there is a discussion to be had here about the motivation of suicide bombers. And in this, Robert Pape's words are relevant, I think:



Here’s What a Man Who Studied Every Suicide Attack in the World Says About ISIS’ Motives

If you want to understand the phenomenon, you have to look behind the religious rhetoric, basically. Pape's well worth reading.

So sharp he'll cut himself that one.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Interesting that the attacker had a history of non-political criminality (assaults etc) prior to the attack, seems to be a very common factor in jihadist terrorists.

And middle-aged men with a grudge against society. If he wasn't a Muslim this would be seen as a case of someone going postal.

Economic and social reasons really do play a part in this sort of thing. Religion is just the excuse papering over the cracks.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Personally I like to use google news and get info from various sources on there whilst understanding their varying biases.

Yet you post links from the Scum, not even knowing if it's factual, which in all probability is 100% horse shit.

 

[green.tea]

Yet you post links from the Scum, not even knowing if it's factual, which in all probability is 100% horse shit.

I was looking for a source for information somebody posted in here.. If the Sun gets hold of the guys CV and prints the information I see no problem with reading it whilst understanding that the source isn't as reliable as the BBC.