Shots fired outside Houses of Parliament

[DaveCinzano]

Assistant commissioner talking live now confirms now 5 dead and around forty injured including two police officers in serious condition

Met saying one of the dead a 15 year veteran of PaDP:

 

[gosub]

Grant Shapps is a twat.

 

[Wilf]

May is truly horrible but it is amazing that corbyn appears even worse. He was terrible.

Just heard a clip of Corbyn. No way of knowing the full extent of what he said, but in the bit shown he said all the right things about 'everybody being safe, inside parliament and out'. What he said was fine, but to be honest he sounded dreadful. He actually looked quite upset.

By contrast, that cunt shapps on at the moment. He's fucking loving it. Utter scum.

 

[Orang Utan]

Katie Hopkins has outdone herself I see. I won't link, but go see for yourself. It's absolute drivel.

 

[Wilf]

I'm feeling a bit nauseous listening to Peston at the moment too.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Pretty robust ITV story summarising the day's events - long on piecing together what happened from available evidence, short on wild-eyed speculation.

Westminster terror attack: Five dead as pedestrians mowed down and police officer stabbed

 

[Pickman's model]

I generally don't give a fig for the law. I do, however, give many many figs for decency, compassion, ethics, morality...

Yeh. But even more than military intelligence journalistic ethics are an oxymoron

 

[cantsin]

Tommy Robinson was on the scene v quick. And has a new pal by the looks of it, anyone know of him ? Caolan Robertson

EDL Leader Stephen Lennon, AKA Tommy Robinson, Jailed For 10 Months For False Passport | The Huffington Post

 

[Pickman's model]

Tommy Robinson was on the scene v quick. And has a new pal by the looks of it, anyone know of him ? Caolan Robertson

EDL Leader Stephen Lennon, AKA Tommy Robinson, Jailed For 10 Months For False Passport | The Huffington Post

Yeh see upthread

 

[gosub]

Just heard a clip of Corbyn. No way of knowing the full extent of what he said, but in the bit shown he said all the right things about 'everybody being safe, inside parliament and out'. What he said was fine, but to be honest he sounded dreadful. He actually looked quite upset.

By contrast, that cunt shapps on at the moment. He's fucking loving it. Utter scum.

You know the arsehole journo that gets decked at the end of the first two die hards... That's Grant Shapps that is

 

[Pickman's model]

Katie Hopkins has outdone herself I see. I won't link, but go see for yourself. It's absolute drivel.

Poor jack monroe blamed for this too I suppose

 

[gosub]

Katie Hopkins has outdone herself I see. I won't link, but go see for yourself. It's absolute drivel.

No thank you.

I'll wait until if and when it gets her in court (again)

 

[DaveCinzano]

for those interested in the roles of the emergency services at MI's the LESLP MIP lays it all out. I dk if it's publicly available, it's a bit of a tome.

This?

http://www.met.police.uk/leslp/docs/major-incident-procedure-manual-9th-ed.pdf

 

[cantsin]

Yeh see upthread

inevitably, apols to all

 

[Pickman's model]

inevitably, apols to all

Worth going back up for, 8den posted some useful info

 

[cantsin]

Worth going back up for, 8den posted some useful info

ta, will do

 

[JimW]

 

[A380]

This?

http://www.met.police.uk/leslp/docs/major-incident-procedure-manual-9th-ed.pdf

And this is the national doctrine on how the Emergency Services should respond together.

http://www.jesip.org.uk/uploads/med...erability_Framework_[edition_2-July-2016].pdf

 

[ddraig]

He got a fair distance from the crash to an entrance didn't he? usually plod with guns at the entrances or near by when I've been past

 

[CRI]

Seems this shit stain waded in within a couple hours of the first report

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

I generally don't give a fig for the law. I do, however, give many many figs for decency, compassion, ethics, morality...

When the Glasgow bin lorry incident happened a few years ago, one of the Scottish papers quickly published online some graphic eye-witness testimony (words, no pics) about the utterly horrific last moments of one of the victims. A relative or friend quickly looking up stuff to find out what the fuck had just happened in Glasgow would likely have read that (because it was one of the top news results - that's how I came to read it), and who the victim was became absolutely clear once the names and pictures were released.

 

[editor]

A mite premature perhaps

He's still the TrevTwat though.

 

[editor]

It's a funny thing isn't it. I think most of us will 'happily' (for want of a better word) watch mobile phone footage of a major news event shot by witnesses. Not necessarily gory of course, but one that shows the heat of the moment. And yet, I can't help thinking you'd have to be a bit of a wrong'un to be filming casualties on the ground or people in panic/distress, even if it didn't show any graphic details.

I'd certainly would like to think I'd never consider getting my phone out and start filming if I got caught up in such situation. And yet I feel guilty by being grateful (again, for want of a better word) that others did just that, especially if theirs was the only footage available of that particular aspect of the incident.

A photographer friend of mine was caught up in the Brixton nail bomb. He didn't take any pictures and went to help the injured people. Pretty sure I'd do the same. That said, sometimes these things need to be documented. It's a tricky balance.

 

[editor]

Not sure where you draw the line with this tbh. That photo of Alan the poor little refugee lad dead on a beach prompted similar comments here initially. ''I don't want to see that on my FB page'' etc. But I think that photo started to change people's minds about the refugee crisis and ultimately did a lot of good. Can't see any of the photos mentioned above having a similar impact tbh but the photographer who took Alan's photo may have appeared incredibly callous at the time too.

Yep. It's a tough call. I can't imagine some of the horror pics some war photographers have taken and never used.

 

[gosub]

He's still the TrevTwat though.

Yeah but he's got an open goal for a liable payout.

 

[wiskey]

This?

http://www.met.police.uk/leslp/docs/major-incident-procedure-manual-9th-ed.pdf

Yes, Pickers posted it upthread too

 

[editor]

Yeah but he's got an open goal for a liable payout.

He first has to prove that his reputation is something that was detrimentally damaged as a result. Given his circumstances, that may be a tad difficult.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Yeah but he's got an open goal for a liable payout.

The damage to his reputation isn't going to be worth a lot of money though.

 

[gosub]

Seems this shit stain waded in within a couple hours of the first report

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So he's setting the bar at no lone wolf attacks in any US city, if that's even possible fuck living under the sort of regime you'd need to make it work

 

[ShiftyBagLady]

When the Glasgow bin lorry incident happened a few years ago, one of the Scottish papers quickly published online some graphic eye-witness testimony (words, no pics) about the utterly horrific last moments of one of the victims. A relative or friend quickly looking up stuff to find out what the fuck had just happened in Glasgow would likely have read that (because it was one of the top news results - that's how I came to read it), and who the victim was became absolutely clear once the names and pictures were released.

That's so sad and unnecessary that it does make me quite angry. That's traumatising for relatives, it seems so cruel to me.
And it's one of the reasons that I find this practise so repugnant