Ship porn

[farmerbarleymow]

And of course all the cunts have to turn up with a new wardrobe

Bit much to expect people to bring furniture with them.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Either I'm very very blind or you have some sort of Blade Runner zoom software

If you try to save the second image the name is in the filename. I can't read the name on the ship either - I think everyone who claims to be able to is lying.

 

[TopCat]

It's written on the side of the thing in your first picture.

There's a series on tele at the moment, Below Deck Mediterranean, it looks thoroughly shit working on these boats, ludicrously long hours pandering to every whim of entitled wankers. Everyone involved seems like a massive arsehole, the agents are the worst people in the history if humanity.

An old pal worked a few summers on yachts like that. He said the passengers were all really thick self obsessed idiots. He did it mainly for the spoils. They lost stuff all the time.

 

[StoneRoad]

This 'un turned up at Whitehaven, more or less unannounced, it was a very tight fit in the sea lock. Several boats had to stand off and on whilst she was berthed. It was virtually dark by the time we were able to get to our mooring.


whn - Lady M and little M at Whitehaven par StoneRoad2013, on ipernity

 

[HAL9000]

 

[T & P]

How is that even possible?

 

[farmerbarleymow]

How is that even possible?

Everyone was standing on one side of the boat?

 

[HAL9000]

How is that even possible?

if you look at the comments, one theory was...

Insufficient ballast weight. Some ships are floated before all the internal equipment is in place. This is partly done because launches are usually at a premium in a shipyard, while piers are not.
Anyway, since this heavy equipment (think engines, generators, pumps, etc) is deep in the ship, it lowers the ship's center of mass. Conversely, not having that equipment installed raises the center of gravity, making it more likely to roll, list, or even capsize. To compensate, ballast should be added before launching. Looks like they forgot or didn't add enough.

 

[petee]

 

[David Clapson]

It's written on the side of the thing in your first picture.

There's a series on tele at the moment, Below Deck Mediterranean, it looks thoroughly shit working on these boats, ludicrously long hours pandering to every whim of entitled wankers. Everyone involved seems like a massive arsehole, the agents are the worst people in the history if humanity.

I've been watching this. It's nonsense, a complete setup. The production company charters the boat, the real crew leave and are replaced by wannabe reality shitheads. Often the boat is temporarily renamed. The 'guests' also have to be fake. I don't know what their deal is, but nobody who spends half a million a week would submit to being filmed and having a so-called service between takes from assorted self-absorbed twats. The goings-on between the crew would get them put ashore within hours. Any sort of onboard romance has to be so deeply under the radar that it would proceed at the pace of a Bronte novel, if at all. And as for crew members having a boozy night off during a charter, forget it.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Has the big formerly-stuck ship sunk yet?

 

[High Voltage]

I read it fine and now know who it belongs to. Also know the hull used to be white.

A mate of mine used to work for a firm building this kind of thing - from what he told me the going rate was "about £1m / foot of length" - so this boat at 77m / 252ft costing "only £100m" is a bit of a cheapie

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

A mate of mine used to work for a firm building this kind of thing - from what he told me the going rate was "about £1m / foot of length" - so this boat at 77m / 252ft costing "only £100m" is a bit of a cheapie

I'd use it as a tender to my 'proper boat'.

 

[High Voltage]

I'd use it as a tender to my 'proper boat'.

Summit for the kids or the missus to knock around in probly (sic)

 

[spitfire]

A mate of mine used to work for a firm building this kind of thing - from what he told me the going rate was "about £1m / foot of length" - so this boat at 77m / 252ft costing "only £100m" is a bit of a cheapie

I used to work at a firm that put in the AV systems for them and the going rate was £1m a metre (2 - 5 years ago). A relative bargain.

 

[Lancman]

The Japanese owned, Taiwanese operated, Panama flagged "Ever Given" is now anchored in the Great Bitter Lake and has been seized by the Egyptian Government pending a $90,000,000 claim.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

The Japanese owned, Taiwanese operated, Panama flagged "Ever Given" is now anchored in the Great Bitter Lake and has been seized by the Egyptian Government pending a $900,000,000 claim.

Doubt they'd raise that much in scrap value.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Doubt they'd raise that much in scrap value.

I guess it's to 'blackmail' the insurance company for a quick pay out, because there's a lot of delayed stock on the ship, which will result in more & bigger claims, with more delays.

Mind you, I would be surprised if they even have $900,000,000 of cover.

 

[Lancman]

The Japanese owned, Taiwanese operated, Panama flagged "Ever Given" is now anchored in the Great Bitter Lake and has been seized by the Egyptian Government pending a $90,000,000 claim.

Sorry about the correction, it's those damned dots. The Egyptian Government has an income of $15,000,000 a day from the Canal and the ship was stuck for 6 days, though it seemed longer.
Belay my last, $900.000,000 it is.

 

[David Clapson]

The owners don't want to pay any compensation, although the ship was speeding before it ran aground. She was doing 13 knots - the limit is 8.6. Seems crazy to me...colossal kinetic energy in such a tiny space. Seizing the ship ups the ante a bit. Big consequences for the crew, the cargo and the owners. The tub I was on was seized by US marshals in Miami for non payment of a shipyard bill. We had spent the day preparing to cross the Atalantic. Eight road tankers had refuelled us and the helicopter had flown aboard. I was in my own little world in a corner of the engine room and had no idea what was happening. I never saw the marshals, which was terribly disappointing. I would have loved a photo of them putting the ship under arrest. The crew were summoned to the mess and briefed by the First Mate. (The captain's crippling social anxiety prevented him from attending, as usual.) Apparently our employer was now, technically, the marshals service. They'd posted a notice at the top of the walkway. Nothing happened. By the next day the bill had been paid and we all buggered off to Gibraltar.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Anyone know if a pilot is on board who has responsibility for the ship, captain or pilot?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Anyone know if a pilot is on board who has responsibility for the ship, captain or pilot?

Still the captain afaik

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Mind you, I would be surprised if they even have $900,000,000 of cover.

Depends on which dollars you're talking about I suppose.

 

[TopCat]

No ones going to payout nearly a billion US when the ship had Egyptian Govt supplied pilots on board.
Plus all that convenience flag Panama bit. It was always designed to place responsibility at arms length.

 

[Lancman]

The Captain is always in charge and responsible, but it's a brave Captain that countermands a Pilot.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Sorry about the correction, it's those damned dots. The Egyptian Government has an income of $15,000,000 a day from the Canal and the ship was stuck for 6 days, though it seemed longer.
Belay my last, $900.000,000 it is.

Did they refund everyone's canal tolls then?

E2a: and should they not have maintained the canal such that it was not actually possible to run aground in the middle of it?

 

[Lancman]

Did they refund everyone's canal tolls then?

E2a: and should they not have maintained the canal such that it was not actually possible to run aground in the middle of it?

I suppose that it could be argued that some part of the ship was in the middle but the two ends definitely weren't.

 

[cupid_stunt]

E2a: and should they not have maintained the canal such that it was not actually possible to run aground in the middle of it?

Fuck me, you really are a plonker.

Nothing as big as this has ever happened before, it's not a fault caused by the canal operators, you silly plank.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

I guess it's to 'blackmail' the insurance company for a quick pay out, because there's a lot of delayed stock on the ship, which will result in more & bigger claims, with more delays.

Mind you, I would be surprised if they even have $900,000,000 of cover.

There is plenty of insurance cover. The damage to the ship and the salvage costs will be picked up by the Hull and Machinery underwriters, which will be commercial underwriters. The 3rd party claims will be covered by the Protection and Indemnity Club, which has reinsurance into the billions. In this case, they have declared General Average, which means they will be expecting cargo owners to contribute to the claim as well if hey want to get their cargo back. Most (but not all) of the cargo will be insured. $900M seems excessive for some dredging works and the loss of canal fees for the few ships that diverted.
Egypt makes a lot of money from the canal, and I suspect there was not much loss of revenue as not many ships went the long way round, it was just delayed revenue.
I'm sure there's some interesting negotiations going on. Egypt can prevent the ship leaving, the insurance industry can refuse to provide cover for anyone using the canal.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Tragic real world consequences of the Suez incident.

Gnome limits: UK garden centres run out after Suez blockage

Lack of raw materials and booming sales over lockdown have led to shortage of garden ornaments

www.theguardian.com