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Wee Eck was doing so well with his speech until he mentioned meeting an ex-squaddie . Given how he actively sort to disenfranchised Scots squaddies deployed in England, Germany and other countries the little shit can fuck right off.
 
in that speech just now alex salmond spelled out whats next, namely forcing the Vow to take place to Browns timetable, every slip on that will be rightly exploited as a betrayal of the democratic process...im sorry its not a Yes, and feel bad for everyone gutted by the result, but still cheered that these islands are going to move another step closer to a more meaningful democracy....will get there in the end

time to turn the media off before cameron pops up on it
 
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Oh god. My mission today is NOT to hear or read any speech or gloating/patronising from the tories.

/feels sick at the thought. :(

It's not going to last long couple of tweets perhaps .....then they are going to go at it like ferrets over what's been given without consultation......also the Welsh assembly will be (rightly) unimpressed at the differential in the distribution of powers
 
Was it unwinnable? If he'd had a defensible and feasible plan for the post independence currency arrangements and a feasible roadmap for EU membership instead of just "It'll be ok because reasons." then he could have got it over the line.
Ive no idea if this is true, but i wonder if the starting point arrangements of the UK made it harder to make the smooth transition case (or are all successions equally problematic?). If a desire for federalism sweeps the nation in the coming months it may create a smoother transition to the same end goal of devolution of power, better avoiding any of those big unknowns that worried some.

Personally i would've preferred the short sharp shock of a Yes win, but I'm not sure the genie can be put back in the bottle now...funnily enough 24hrs ago I doubted a No vote would result in much more than a rapid and forced return to the status quo, but now i think the thin end of the wedge has been hammered into the system and theres no going back and the momentum for self-government will snowball across the UK.

Oh god. My mission today is NOT to hear or read any speech or gloating/patronising from the tories.

/feels sick at the thought. :(
ha yeah i agree. That said Camerons truly panicked and distraught face has been one of the highlights of the campaign up till now, and I reckon there'll be plenty more squirming to take some pleasure in between now and the GE.
 
Listen to these cunts cheering to keep inequality.

It's that attitude that helped you lose. They made their own decisions for their own reasons.

FOI request going in re cost of this. I suspect that it would offset the £400m of health spending cuts, scheduled to be announced after the referendum.

Salmond's cuts, right? The ones he forgot to mention in the debate with Darling when he asked us to vote Yes to protect the NHS?
 
Only 14 months between Ireland's EU referendums when the first result didn't give the right one for the elites

This ones not going to be once in a lifetime is it ..?...my bets 5 to 8 years

Yes. It will happen the next time the SNP hold the balance of power in Westminster.
 
Condolences to the yes campaign supporters but be proud of the fact that this campaign has brought more people to the debate on why politics has become so stale in this group of countries.
Hopefully the kick start to change.
But I sadly remain pessimistic.:(
 
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FOI request going in re cost of this. I suspect that it would offset the £400m of health spending cuts, scheduled to be announced after the referendum.

re the cost, its wrong to be paralised by spending to potentially create deep and meaningful changes to the system, the end logic of that argument is sitting in a closed room eating bread and water. A Yes win would've completely changed the financial make up of the country. Worth remembering that the SNP had it in their manifesto to have this referendum and had a mandate to follow through on that promise from the electorate - within a proportionally representative parliament at that.

Yes. It will happen the next time the SNP hold the balance of power in Westminster.
any failure to follow through on the Vow will also give real justification to a rerun
 
I stopped listening quite quickly but the beginning sounded more like loser's speech trying to sound gracious.
 
Anyone seen a map of the regional results?
only one for absolute wins with each voting region coloured in for its final result which doesnt really reflect the fact that the Yes vote is spread across the whole country, not just in pockets...the lowest Yes vote in any region was a third of the electorate
 
On the bright side this probably means that the Catalans are more likely to be 'allowed' a referendum, which they will almost certainly vote yes in.
why so allowed? Who allows it and why does this vote encourage it to happen? Im asking as i know nothing about it
 
A grey, normal day then here in London. Pretty Disappointing!

Only 75% turnout in Glasgow. Seems surprisingly low. I reckon a lot of folks couldnt make up their minds, or Yes voters bottled it.
 
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