Savile being used as a wedge issue to attack BBC independence
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I've never paid the licence fee yet just like I won't pay for Sky or Virgin either.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
freeloader
People who paid the licence fee during the Savile years were peadophile enablers
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Somewhere on the whole internet a sillier post may have been made today. Can't say for certain, but it may have.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
More either/or logic. Why not imagine a BBC not run by an elite for an elite and padding it out with nonsense about public service? Why not BBC under democratic community control? Or maybe it really, is as your either/or logic dictates, - fox news or the current BBC.
(Cue next post, hey i really like those proposed things too! Bit odd that other people arguing it are put in the either/or box though eh? Whereas you are just simply free)
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
2 fine sentences, with a weasly, politician 'but does that mean' in the middle. Great stuff.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the management which presided over the culture of silence has already largely departed; that is, the people who were there while sir jimmy savile obe kcsg was there have probably all gone by now.
incidentally, while we're hearing a lot about the bbc in all this, perhaps some bile should be saved for the honours system: i wonder how many nonces have been given obes and mbes and the like.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Good point. I just read he was knighted in 96, which was some time after there had been police investigations and some sort of 'official' BBC investigation into him. When there was also the wider swirl of rumours at the BBC, you do wonder what investigations the committee on honours (or whatever system it was in 96) did. Would assume there were at least police checks? Even pre Sohan, which highlighted the lack of evidence sharing when there was no conviction, you'd think it wasn't beyond the civil servants to ask some straightforward questions.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Would a "Coulson background check" gag be too non-current at this point? I never know what the shelf life is on these things.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Can I move to have this stricken from the record? This was a bit ridiculous
I agree with Wilf. They should have to do criminal record checks before knighting someone. If they discover they are a bad un, just don't tell them so that when the Queen taps them on the shoulder with her sword, she can swing around hard and chop their head clean off.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Ironically, whatever minimal checks the honours committee would have done might well have been the most rigorous checks undertaken throughout his whole nonce career. Certainly beats the 'official' BBC investigation:
'What's all these rumours I've been hearing Jim, are you a nonce?'
'No'
'Fair enough. Right, anyway, we've got the next series organised, Gary Glitter has agreed to appear in the first show...'.
'What's all these rumours I've been hearing Jim, are you a nonce?'
'No'
'Fair enough. Right, anyway, we've got the next series organised, Gary Glitter has agreed to appear in the first show...'.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
What's this crap about BBC "independence"?
The same BBC which deliberately reversed its news footage of the sequence of events during the battle of Orgreave to make it look as though miners not police were responsible for starting the violence?
The same BBC which produced the disgraceful propagandist Panorama episode which justified the Israeli raid on the Gaza flotilla?
The same BBC which is cheering on Tory austerity and demonising the unemployed?
All privatising the BBC would mean is a pro government propaganda channel with adverts instead of a pro government propaganda channel with a licence fee to avoid.
Fuck the BBC.
The same BBC which deliberately reversed its news footage of the sequence of events during the battle of Orgreave to make it look as though miners not police were responsible for starting the violence?
The same BBC which produced the disgraceful propagandist Panorama episode which justified the Israeli raid on the Gaza flotilla?
The same BBC which is cheering on Tory austerity and demonising the unemployed?
All privatising the BBC would mean is a pro government propaganda channel with adverts instead of a pro government propaganda channel with a licence fee to avoid.
Fuck the BBC.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
It's hardly a fuck-up. More a result of institutional and organisational flaws coming home to roost. "Fuck-up" makes it sound accidental, rather than the result of neglect.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Nah. It'd also mean a pro-government channel with adverts following the money in preference to the news even more keenly than the commercial TV companies already do.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
articul8 has no ambitions to be a politican. He's told us himself!
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Do you mean he's fully satisfied with his current post, has important work to do and supports the present leadership (but is installing phone lines as we speak)?
barney_pig
Po-cha-na-quar-hip
this would be the same bbc that suppressed the newsnight report to defend the image of Jimmy Saville, knew the extent of the allegations yet continued to show tribute programmes, and a special jim'll fix it. and then when forced to acknowledge the truth when confronted by an ITV documentary attempted to defer any investigation into the affair for as long as possible.
or acompletly different one?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh, there's a lot of good programming on the bbc. but there's a lot of dross too. and as barney says, there's a great deal to be desired in the governance of the bbc.
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