_angel_
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Tbf I think what she said back was worse. I'm not even a fan of topcat!
Savile being used as a wedge issue to attack BBC independence
- Thread starter Bernie Gunther
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TopCat
Putin fanboy
You have shown yourself to be a disgrace. Your actions here are just a pathetic attempt to deflect your shame by abusing myself.Thanks for confirming my worst fears. You really are a disgrace.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
I'll concede there's been no explicit calls for that, but there's been a lot of comments suggesting as much, or at least fundamental changes to its structure and financing that would render it a very different beast.
It is not perfect, far from it, but the way I see it the fact we can even have these conversations about it is why it's important - it is accountable in a way commercially-funded broadcasters simply aren't.
editor
hiraethified
No, this wasn't about the heat of a discussion, this was about him calling MrsM a "spineless cunt" just because she closed a thread on the request of a poster.
It was a reasonable moderating decision and mods don't deserve to put up with this kind of abuse just because one mouthy poster doesn't agree with that decision.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Hang on. Who called whom a creep here? That's out of order bringing that up imo. How about you telling me I had a 'nasty agenda' on the Savile thread? You going to apologise for that? Fuck's sake. I didn't want to mention this again, but you're way off on this. Way off.
editor
hiraethified
This was about a response to a moderating decision. Mods shouldn't have to put up with that kind of abuse, full stop.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
I am not going to let you provoke me into abuse giving you the excuse you are yearning for in order to ban me. It would avoid all sorts of awkward reminders of what you did eh?
You and Mrs M just stoop lower than even the most cynical person could imagine possible.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Mods should not dish out disgusting abuse and then complain when they are called to account.
editor
hiraethified
Except you didn't know who had closed the thread at the time, did you?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Why the FUCK are you bringing this up? If I report you for cross-thread abuse, will you do something about it?
Both you and MrsM need to show some humility here, admit you got several things wrong and stop this ridiculous lashing out.
editor
hiraethified
Oh dear. It's like you've just completely forgotten what you just posted up in post #65.
Do you think mods should have to put up with this kind of abuse over a moderating decision?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Surreal isn't it?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
This. ^ Shut the fuck up editor.
editor
hiraethified
You really are quite the hypocrite.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Hardly cynicism. The Beeb was never the beacon of journalistic freedom that it's been painted as, but post-Gilligan it's been pretty much slavishly taking the government's part, and hoping that people won't notice all the craven bowing and scraping. They've spent the last several years reporting the various post-"credit crunch" attacks on the welfare state from a mostly "pro" perspective, with an occasional "anti" doco thrown in.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I suspect that a goodly majority of 'em are already gone. Birt's "reform" of the Beeb saw off a lot of the middle and upper management who joined between the '60s and the '80s. That said, it'll make it harder for the Beeb to scapegoat individuals, or for the government to blame the actual institution.
I think there needs to be an independent public enquiry - not a "Hutton", but a properly-funded wide-ranging public enquiry.
Another lame question.
Lol at this. I look forward to seeing the dude who works on Newsnight who told me, categorically, and somewhat patronisingly, that the decision to pull the programme was in no way linked with the planed Savile Christmas specials. 'Don't believe everything you read' he sneered.
Seeing him tomorrow night I think at a friend's do, should be fun
Seeing him tomorrow night I think at a friend's do, should be fun
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Abolition would be bad. A public service broadcaster does at least leaven the commercial imperative of the independents, and we know from the various independent TV news "consolidations" over the years, that the commercial imperative can often mean poor news coverage, poor reportage and news programmes with too much "filler" content. I wouldn't like to see that being the case on every channel. The Beeb may be biased, but at least I know what their bias is, and it's not toward selling ad space.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Lol at this. I look forward to seeing the dude who works on Newsnight who told me, categorically, and somewhat patronisingly, that the decision to pull the programme was in no way linked with the planed Savile Christmas specials. 'Don't believe everything you read' he sneered.
Seeing him tomorrow night I think at a friend's do, should be fun
Repeat his sneer back to him, then wink. He'll probably have a stroke, if you're lucky.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Seeing him tomorrow night I think at a friend's do, should be fun
I hope it's not school disco-themed.
Not defending the BBC particuarly after its appalling coverage of welfare/benefits issues, but thats not absolutely correct: they were planning a major series of programmes on the ''impacts of the cuts'' the Condem's applied massive pressure and the useless Thompson had a significant meeting with Cameron who waved the ''licence fee stick'' and caved in, no series and a definite shift in reporting of the cuts..
ska invita
back on the other side
Best thing about the BBC is Newsnight*.... errr....
*joke
Couldnt agree more on that. If it did this it would also get most of privatisers of their backs too...
anyhow I cant see that this will really be steered from an internal investigation with maybe one person getting the chop into any deeper structural changes, no matter how much braying there is in the press. There's just no correlation between the two things...is there?
*joke
THIS
Couldnt agree more on that. If it did this it would also get most of privatisers of their backs too...
anyhow I cant see that this will really be steered from an internal investigation with maybe one person getting the chop into any deeper structural changes, no matter how much braying there is in the press. There's just no correlation between the two things...is there?
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
UrbaneFox
They've doubled in price
I suspect they've all retired or have dementia.
_angel_
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Can we have one thread where no one posts up any pictures of the old creep?
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
This.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
TBF, that picture looks like Savile is lurking to the side of her with just a bit of his hair sticking out, ready to pounce into noncedom once the camera is gone.
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