Saudi gang rape victim sentenced to lashes and prison

[nino_savatte]

Said with such sincerity too. What a tosser.

Oh and I'm not your "brother" either. I never will be and I never want to be.

 

[MikeMcc]

kinda sensitive 4 someone that insults other ppl so freely arent ya

Even if your arguement wasn't so pathetic you might get a better reaction if you stopped with the stupid text-speak.

 

[Fuchs66]

what happened 2 her, she got pardoned over a fortnight ago u clown

So maybe it was a good idea that she went to the press after all.

Are you disappointed she didn't have the skin flayed off her back after all now?

 

[fattboy]

She got pardoned for being gang raped. Marvellous! I don't think that you're quite grasping the root of my problem with this case.

Happy Kwanzaa btw!

nah ur the one that isnt grasping the root of the problem

what part of no proof of rape dont u understand

some woman in england goes 2 a court 3 months after she was supposedly raped with absolutely no proof 4 it, how far do u think its gonna go

 

[Blagsta]

nah ur the one that isnt grasping the root of the problem

what part of no proof of rape dont u understand

some woman in england goes 2 a court 3 months after she was supposedly raped with absolutely no proof 4 it, how far do u think its gonna go

Whether you're a fash pretending to be Muslim (more likely) or a genuine Muslim fundie nut, either way, your opinions are vile.

 

[MikeMcc]

nah ur the one that isnt grasping the root of the problem

what part of no proof of rape dont u understand

some woman in england goes 2 a court 3 months after she was supposedly raped with absolutely no proof 4 it, how far do u think its gonna go

How do you know there was no proof? It actually seems that one of the men was also a victim of this barbarity as well.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7112999.stm

 

[fattboy]

i do hold 2 the fundamentals of Islam, if that makes me a muslim fundamentalist then i dont mind being called that

sharia law protects society, its not 4 the benefit of any one individual, but everyone, it protects ones religion, wealth, family, honour and health.

feel free 2 google the rape stats in uk and saudi, or any other muslim country, check the murder and burglary rates while ur there and then tell me ur system is better.

 

[fattboy]

How do you know there was no proof? It actually seems that one of the men was also a victim of this barbarity as well.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7112999.stm

'SHE SAYS' hardly counts as proof does it

 

[MikeMcc]

'SHE SAYS' hardly counts as proof does it

Nor does you saying that constitute anything. I'll ask again, how do you know that there was no proof?

 

[MikeMcc]

i do hold 2 the fundamentals of Islam, if that makes me a muslim fundamentalist then i dont mind being called that

sharia law protects society, its not 4 the benefit of any one individual, but everyone, it protects ones religion, wealth, family, honour and health.

feel free 2 google the rape stats in uk and saudi, or any other muslim country, check the murder and burglary rates while ur there and then tell me ur system is better.

I wonder how the stats compare on people whipped until the skin is destroyed? Usually until the point where blood poisoning kills them. It's barbaric.

 

[MikeMcc]

'SHE SAYS' hardly counts as proof does it

What's your view on the man who was raped and then beaten to an inch of his life as well?

 

[fattboy]

Nor does you saying that constitute anything. I'll ask again, how do you know that there was no proof?

hows the burden of proof on me or the men

ever heard of innocent till proven guilty

if she went 2 the police after it happened they could have got a doctor 2 check her out, not much point 3 months down the line.

 

[fattboy]

What's your view on the man who was raped and then beaten to an inch of his life as well?

bring me the proof it ever happened

 

[fattboy]

I wonder how the stats compare on people whipped until the skin is destroyed? Usually until the point where blood poisoning kills them. It's barbaric.

these incidents r very rare, and the burden of proof is massive in the sharia

4 someone 2 be found guilty of adultery, they need 2 be found in the act by 4 witnesses!

they would have 2 be doing it in the middle of town 2 be caught and found guilty

sharia punishments are hard, but so is coming home 2 find ur wife with another man

its there 4 everyones protection

look at the state of the west since family life has been all but destroyed, extra marital affairs have almost become acceptable and its destroying this society.

 

[MikeMcc]

bring me the proof it ever happened

Three guys convicted for it for a start, and one equally inhumanely treated in the same way as the girl. I can only operate from the stories posted in the media. You are the one contending that that there was no proof. Back it up if you can.

 

[fattboy]

She got pardoned for being gang raped. Marvellous! I don't think that you're quite grasping the root of my problem with this case.

Happy Kwanzaa btw!

ur an idiot, if u carried on like this in real life ud have ur head cracked open more times than uve had hot dinners

 

[Blagsta]

i do hold 2 the fundamentals of Islam, if that makes me a muslim fundamentalist then i dont mind being called that

sharia law protects society, its not 4 the benefit of any one individual, but everyone, it protects ones religion, wealth, family, honour and health.

feel free 2 google the rape stats in uk and saudi, or any other muslim country, check the murder and burglary rates while ur there and then tell me ur system is better.

vile vile piece of shit

 

[MikeMcc]

hows the burden of proof on me or the men

ever heard of innocent till proven guilty

if she went 2 the police after it happened they could have got a doctor 2 check her out, not much point 3 months down the line.

Doesn't seem to be the case in Sharia law. You seem to be picking bits of law that suit you.

 

[sleaterkinney]

look at the state of the west since family life has been all but destroyed, extra marital affairs have almost become acceptable and its destroying this society.

And you think not letting a woman out unless she is with a family member and covered up is the answer?.

 

[fattboy]

Three guys convicted for it for a start, and one equally inhumanely treated in the same way as the girl. I can only operate from the stories posted in the media. You are the one contending that that there was no proof. Back it up if you can.

no-one was convicted of rape

 

[fattboy]

Doesn't seem to be the case in Sharia law. You seem to be picking bits of law that suit you.

i dont understand what ur saying

 

[ViolentPanda]

hows the burden of proof on me or the men

ever heard of innocent till proven guilty

if she went 2 the police after it happened they could have got a doctor 2 check her out, not much point 3 months down the line.

You're presupposing that anyone who'd been subjected to such an attack would be in a fit mental state to go to the police etc.

 

[MikeMcc]

these incidents r very rare, and the burden of proof is massive in the sharia

4 someone 2 be found guilty of adultery, they need 2 be found in the act by 4 witnesses!

they would have 2 be doing it in the middle of town 2 be caught and found guilty

sharia punishments are hard, but so is coming home 2 find ur wife with another man

its there 4 everyones protection

look at the state of the west since family life has been all but destroyed, extra marital affairs have almost become acceptable and its destroying this society.

STOP WITH THE TEXT SHIT! It makes you look even more of an immature wanker than your arguements do.

Whoopie do, 4 witnesses. From a culture that cultivates rape as a weapon of terror against women having an opinon of their own this is not encouraging. We've had three men convicted in the UK recently for murder, rape and conspiracy to rape and murder because a woman had the audacity to want to have a relationship with a man of her choice. The man convicted of conspiracy was her own father!

Bollocks is anything 'destroying' society. The two societies are simply different. That doesn't chnage the facts that such punishments as stoning and lashes are barbaic and inhumane. I've found my wife having an affair. I talk from experience. It's painful, but you get over it. You don't EVER recover from hundreds of lashes.

 

[MikeMcc]

no-one was convicted of rape

3 of the 4 were convicted of rape but given the most lenient sentances possible.

 

[ViolentPanda]

i dont understand what ur saying

I suspect he's asking you which bit of al-Quran says that you're innocent until proven guilty.
After all, Shariat is supposed to be based on the words and deeds of the prophet, isn't it?

 

[MikeMcc]

i dont understand what ur saying

I can't help that you are thick then.

Please find a reference for the 'innocent till proven guilty' in Sharia law. It's easy to find in UK law

 

[MikeMcc]

ur an idiot, if u carried on like this in real life ud have ur head cracked open more times than uve had hot dinners

I almost replied to this with wondering how you would fare sprouting any of your bullshit near us. Thankfully I don't want to lower myself to your level.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I can't help that you are thick then.

Please find a reference for the 'innocent till proven guilty' in Sharia law. It's easy to find in UK law

That's because it's a basic premise of our legal system. many other European countries don't actually operate on the presumption of innocence.

I don't actually recall any presumption of innocence in the Koran, rather an injunction to fair treatment for all before the law.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I almost replied to this with wondering how you would fare sprouting any of your bullshit near us. Thankfully I don't want to lower myself to your level.

More times that you've had hot dinners?

He must think you're only half as old as you really are.

 

[fattboy]

I suspect he's asking you which bit of al-Quran says that you're innocent until proven guilty.
After all, Shariat is supposed to be based on the words and deeds of the prophet, isn't it?

correct, the sharia is based on the Qur'an and the ahadith (the guidance of the Prophet peace be upon him)

in the sharia everyone is innocent till proven guilty, the onus is on the accuser 2 bring the evidence, and btw we had this when the west were dunking ppl in water and burning them with hot irons 2 ascertain wether they were guilty or not.