Roosh V, Pro-Rape Pick Up Artist, Announces Worldwide 'Tribal Meetings'
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FabricLiveBaby!
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Negging:
At least you can sometimes get a good laugh on these boards.
"cuntstick"
"Officer Porcine"
Don't even need to go to the bar - you can get offers of 'entertainment' (sometimes in graphical form) from thirsty guys delivered to your phone 24/7 ...
BigTom
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(a) there's a constant stream of desperate/depressed young men so always new people to blag.
(b) confidence is useful if you are trying to pull, both because it means you actually try and because it's a generally attractive quality. If this shit gives someone confidence it'll work in the way a placebo works.
But it's fucking horrible shit and anyone who isn't disgusted by the concepts behind the techniques, if not the techniques themselves*, is well fucking dodgy imo.
*negging is obviously grim, as is the preying on (perceived) vulnerable women, but iirc there's a lot about touching and probably some other things which aren't, except of course that the context they are in is.
bimble
floofy
Can't quite bring myself to 'like' that but.. yes. To deny that this 'inequality of opportunity' exists is just kind of silly, isn't it? And it's surely a major factor in why people like Roosh exist at all.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Negging:
The very last bit about the tit-job is genuinely disconcerting, as it should be. That's rather well done - take the piss, but also don't forget how fucking scary this crap is.
Rebelda
Nearly as bad as Badgers
Didn't the one who got turfed out of Australia advocate grabbing women by the hair and forcing their faces towards your (ones) penis? I mean, aside from the fact that it's assault, I don't think that 'works' in the sense that women like it. They have no qualms with terrifying women into submission.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
Miss Caphat
I want it that way
The thing about this negging bs, is that it most likely works on everyone to some degree. Doesn't mean the victims of it are mentally weak, twisted sluts. A study came out recently that both men and women are attracted to people who show signs of narcissism, psychopathy, and machavellianism. Psychology Uncovers Sex Appeal of Dark Personalities
As I was saying, it's not because we're weak and twisted, but because for whatever reason it's an ingrained response, and using it is a shallow and callous trick.
Roosh blames it on women, the fact that he couldn't get sex when he acted like himself, but that he could when he used this trick. Instead of looking around him at all the people who didn't / don't need to resort to psychological games to get attention, and comparing what they might be doing right instead of what wasn't working for him (most likely being his dull as dishwater, boring self)
As I was saying, it's not because we're weak and twisted, but because for whatever reason it's an ingrained response, and using it is a shallow and callous trick.
Roosh blames it on women, the fact that he couldn't get sex when he acted like himself, but that he could when he used this trick. Instead of looking around him at all the people who didn't / don't need to resort to psychological games to get attention, and comparing what they might be doing right instead of what wasn't working for him (most likely being his dull as dishwater, boring self)
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
I've met plenty of women who find the idea of traditional gender roles and dominant men very attractive. Why wouldn't they? 10,000 years of conditioning isn't unravelled in a couple of generations...
bimble
floofy
exactly.
Sexually attractive, definitely.
Socially attractive, definitely not.
This paradox causes much confusion among the ignorant and insecure.
bimble
floofy
That article explains also that "since the hallmark of these personality traits is interpersonal exploitation, it is only a matter of time before those closest to them get wise to their ways and start to avoid them. When it comes to long-term relationships, either in fiction or reality, most people shy away from those with dark personality traits. "
Which makes sense. So maybe the only 'way out' for the men who resort to these techniques would be if a woman stuck around long enough to actually get to know who they are underneath their 'game', and found something to like about them, and vice versa.
Miss Caphat
I want it that way
I think it's a bit more nuanced than that. I think a good number of both sexes (heterosexual) are drawn to characteristics traditionally associated with masculinity or femininity. It's no doubt somewhat biological too. But there's a difference between liking a woman who gets her hair done and is soft-spoken and needing it to translate into her actually being submissive and needing to have her actions controlled by a man, or a woman liking a man who can chop firewood in a flannel shirt and wanting to have him dictate the details of her daily life.
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bimble
floofy
Not sure what you mean by socially attractive. You mean like getting to be friendzoned ?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Well put. It's nuanced and often messy, ime. Many of us are conflicted and flatly contradictory about various aspects of sexual attraction (I admit that I am). I think that mess is what provides room for this stuff.
bimble
floofy
Makes me want to move to Glasgow South. ((cold ravioli from a tin))
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
randian sorts of course. The one with long hair who looks like he belongs on the beast wing likes his 'Who is Jon Galt?' signs. Jon Galt is in fact a rapist from the rand book played as a hero. And so the circle squaresRecent rally in support of Roosh V.
Not sure what you mean by socially attractive. You mean like getting to be friendzoned ?
No. I meant that the men who women claim to find arrogant, obnoxious, over-assertive and socially objectionable in various ways are the very same men who they find sexually attractive.
Some men like Roosh find this contemptibly hypocritical. They neglect to consider that male sexuality is far worse in this regard, being based almost entirely on superficial physical characteristics rather than any kind of social or ethical merit.
bimble
floofy
This has a lot of truth in it i think (not me personally or not me right now
but yes)Not sure where hypocrisy comes into it. Roosh is very clear about this, he advocates that right thinking men shoiuld refuse to sleep with women who voice any sort of feminist opinions. See http://www.rooshv.com/do-not-have-sex-with-feminists.
And anybody who uses "male sexuality" or "female sexuality" in their analysis without explaining what they are talking about and why should probably.. have a rethink, and a tin of cold ravioli.
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This has a lot of truth in it i think (not me personally or not me right now
Of course it's true. Of course it's not true for you personally though. Of course not.
Roosh et al find it unfair that women are not attracted to "nice guys," that is to say that women do not take morality into account in matters of sexual attraction.
However, Roosh and company are hypocrites because, while attacking women for not being attracted on the basis of morality, they openly boast that their attraction to women is based entirely on physical appearance and has nothing to do with the "niceness" or otherwise of their personality.
To attack someone for behavior in which you yourself indulge is the very essence of hypocrisy.
I fail to see the difficulty with these terms. What is it?
bimble
floofy
Your reputation precedes you on this website but..
But nothing.
What's the problem with using the terms "male sexuality" and "female sexuality?" Just where does the problem lie? In what does the difficulty reside? Exactly why do you find these terms inadequate?
FabricLiveBaby!
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You were doing so well dwyer
You were doing so well dwyer
That's what I get for listening to Roosh.
Seriously though, I have been reading his site today. I had no idea such people existed.
It's quite mad of course, and sociopathic even, but I can't help thinking that it's genuinely representative of a fairly substantial minority of young men these days. Betas or incels or whatever they call themselves. There does seem to be an awful lot of them around, and they weren't around in such numbers 10 or 15 years ago. Something's going on here.
It's quite mad of course, and sociopathic even, but I can't help thinking that it's genuinely representative of a fairly substantial minority of young men these days. Betas or incels or whatever they call themselves. There does seem to be an awful lot of them around, and they weren't around in such numbers 10 or 15 years ago. Something's going on here.
camouflage
gaslit at scale.
Ta for the link.
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