Roosh V, Pro-Rape Pick Up Artist, Announces Worldwide 'Tribal Meetings'

[andysays]

Exactly. One way or another, he's going down and soon.

His persona is completely unacceptable in the current climate of opinion. There is no way he will be allowed to continue.

What specifically does the dwyer crystal ball say he will be going down for?

Having a persona which is completely unacceptable in the current climate of opinion isn't yet a criminal offence (thankfully), and as long as the stuff he says and does isn't illegal, there's no way the law can be used to prevent him continuing. This is why it's important that he and his ilk are exposed and resisted by the rest of us, including by men who don't share his odious opinions.

 

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Cunts like thunderf00t I expect.

eta: of 'most rape is just bad sex' infamy.

i think it's probably that kind of thing. the people who are in leadership positions, the spokespeople for athiesm are gobby shits. who spout off sexism, the spout off more sexism when women complain (they are humourless being one of the common ones). having the shits in the leadership positions atracts more shits, empowers the shits already there to shout louder and drives away the non shits.

 

[toggle]

What specifically does the dwyer crystal ball say he will be going down for?

Having a persona which is completely unacceptable in the current climate of opinion isn't yet a criminal offence (thankfully), and as long as the stuff he says and does isn't illegal, there's no way the law can be used to prevent him continuing. This is why it's important that he and his ilk are exposed and resisted by the rest of us, including by men who don't share his odious opinions.

especially by men.

cause people inclined to listen to women about this have already got the message.

and cause the wa6y they speak against men who disagree with them is more likely to show other men (who don't listen to women) what odious shits they are than than the way they speak about women.

 

[phildwyer]

What specifically does the dwyer crystal ball say he will be going down for?

Rape.

Having a persona which is completely unacceptable in the current climate of opinion isn't yet a criminal offence (thankfully), and as long as the stuff he says and does isn't illegal, there's no way the law can be used to prevent him continuing.

Want to bet?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I don't want to downplay the odiousness of the ideas, but isn't the best response to laugh at them? They are laughable, after all. I mean blokey in his superhero suit.

 

[bimble]

I don't want to downplay the odiousness of the ideas, but isn't the best response to laugh at them? They are laughable, after all. I mean blokey in his superhero suit.

Leaving aside this Roosh and his 'views' on rape, and the outright hate in other MRA writings / comments, I get really confused when I read the PUA stuff, or look at their youtube 'how to' videos: It's comedy until quite suddenly it's not funny at all, if you know what I mean. Stuff like this.

I came into contact with all this via the word 'negging', which I'd never heard before and I think is a PUA coinage.

 

[Rebelda]

i think it's probably that kind of thing. the people who are in leadership positions, the spokespeople for athiesm are gobby shits. who spout off sexism, the spout off more sexism when women complain (they are humourless being one of the common ones). having the shits in the leadership positions atracts more shits, empowers the shits already there to shout louder and drives away the non shits.

It's also (IMO) a desire to be a homophobic, racist, sexist, rapey bigot BUT WITH SCIENCE cos they're not like those raving fundamental religious nuts, oh no. I went down a rabbit hole of discovering these people today following that amusing takedown of RV YouTube video up thread. It's actually quite frightening how much of this shit there is.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Can't watch that at the mo, but yeah I take your point. Definitely a place for ridicule here, though. If anyone deserves to be belittled it's these nobs.

 

[YouSir]

Leaving aside this Roosh and his 'views' on rape, and the outright hate in other MRA writings / comments, I get really confused when I read the PUA stuff, or look at their youtube 'how to' videos: It's comedy until quite suddenly it's not funny at all, if you know what I mean. Stuff like this.
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I came into contact with all this via the word 'negging', which I'd never heard before and I think is a PUA coinage.

This stuff is big in the - online - US. Only ever met one person doing it in the UK and he got laughed at, by me. But then I was the only other man in a crowd of young women so he presumably fancied his odds. As you say, it's funny until it's not, which for me was when I realized he was preying on women he thought were vulnerable, not just trying it on everyone.

E2a: They weren't vulnerable, they'd have broken him, but he'd profiled them in his own mind.

 

[bimble]

Can't watch that at the mo, but yeah I take your point. Definitely a place for ridicule here, though. If anyone deserves to be belittled it's these nobs.

I decided to not put the actual link just a screenshot so you'll have to google through the horror yourself after work

 

[Miss Caphat]

Roosh's lament (you couldn't make this stuff up)

"You made me learn game. You made it very clear that being nice, chivalrous, and patient was not the way to have sex with you. You let me know that being your friend, listening to your problems, and supporting you through hard times would only result in me getting to hear you fuck other guys. You pushed me to approach a million women to improve my ability to get laid.

You made me a selfish asshole. You rewarded me with sex when I treated you poorly. Your pussy got wetter the less I respected you. You made me go against my kind nature by being more cocky and arrogant.

You made me emotionally cold. You punished me any time I told you my feelings. You lost interest in me whenever I showed you basic human affection before you gave me affection first. You showed me that the less I concerned myself with your well-being, the more you did what I wanted.

You made me go for shallow one-night stands. You wouldn’t return my call even though we had what you admitted was a great conversation. You would flake and disappear for no obvious reason, making me feel like a piece of shit. You made me view sex as a numbers game where I treat you as nothing more than a “prospect” towards my sexual needs, an entry in my cell phone that represented possible sex, not a human being I wanted to build something with. You gave me no choice but to speed up all interactions at caveman speedso I could at least get a nut.

You made me leave America. Your entitled attitude become unbearable and your appearance disgusting. You have lost what it means to be a woman and what it takes to make a man happy. You have so little value to give yet you still expect Prince Charming to one day sweep you off your feet. You are a corrupted and damaged female, and have tried your damnedest to bring me down to your level.

The more game I learned and the more women I approached, the more sex I got. The more I worried about my needs and the more I treated you like crap, the more you went out of your way to please me. The colder I was to you, the more likely you’d want to be with me. The faster I went for sex, the less you flaked on me. The more time I spent away from America, the happier I became.

You made me hate feminism. You made me forget about marriage. You made me a voice for men who have gone through the same struggles that I have. The interactions I have with a woman tomorrow is entirely due to your influence and how you’ve treated me the past fifteen years. Who I am stems from your responses to my attempts at fulfilling my biological urge of sleeping with you. You’ve shaped my game and views towards women every time you rejected me and every time you opened your legs. You made me who I am, and every day you create one thousand men who are just like me."

 

[camouflage]

Cunts like thunderf00t I expect.

Always find this sort of thing ironic, calling someone a "cunt" because they said something sexist. A few months ago, someone I know was told to "go suck a nob" or something similar, the guy was condemned (rightly) for using this expression against her, but then he was denounced as a "cunt".

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Always find this sort of thing ironic, calling someone a "cunt" because they said something sexist. A few months ago, someone I know was told to "go suck a nob" or something similar, the guy was condemned (rightly) for using this expression against her, but then he was denounced as a "cunt".

Personally, I don't see the use of 'cunt' as an insult as necessarily sexist, any more than prick, nob, arsehole, twat, dick, penis, etc etc. It's a hangover from Victorian prudishness - the 'unmentionables' are mentioned!

 

[butchersapron]

Roosh's lament (you couldn't make this stuff up)

"You made me learn game. You made it very clear that being nice, chivalrous, and patient was not the way to have sex with you. You let me know that being your friend, listening to your problems, and supporting you through hard times would only result in me getting to hear you fuck other guys. You pushed me to approach a million women to improve my ability to get laid.

You made me a selfish asshole. You rewarded me with sex when I treated you poorly. Your pussy got wetter the less I respected you. You made me go against my kind nature by being more cocky and arrogant.

You made me emotionally cold. You punished me any time I told you my feelings. You lost interest in me whenever I showed you basic human affection before you gave me affection first. You showed me that the less I concerned myself with your well-being, the more you did what I wanted.

You made me go for shallow one-night stands. You wouldn’t return my call even though we had what you admitted was a great conversation. You would flake and disappear for no obvious reason, making me feel like a piece of shit. You made me view sex as a numbers game where I treat you as nothing more than a “prospect” towards my sexual needs, an entry in my cell phone that represented possible sex, not a human being I wanted to build something with. You gave me no choice but to speed up all interactions at caveman speedso I could at least get a nut.

You made me leave America. Your entitled attitude become unbearable and your appearance disgusting. You have lost what it means to be a woman and what it takes to make a man happy. You have so little value to give yet you still expect Prince Charming to one day sweep you off your feet. You are a corrupted and damaged female, and have tried your damnedest to bring me down to your level.

The more game I learned and the more women I approached, the more sex I got. The more I worried about my needs and the more I treated you like crap, the more you went out of your way to please me. The colder I was to you, the more likely you’d want to be with me. The faster I went for sex, the less you flaked on me. The more time I spent away from America, the happier I became.

You made me hate feminism. You made me forget about marriage. You made me a voice for men who have gone through the same struggles that I have. The interactions I have with a woman tomorrow is entirely due to your influence and how you’ve treated me the past fifteen years. Who I am stems from your responses to my attempts at fulfilling my biological urge of sleeping with you. You’ve shaped my game and views towards women every time you rejected me and every time you opened your legs. You made me who I am, and every day you create one thousand men who are just like me."

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Recent rally in support of Roosh V.

 

[camouflage]

Roosh's lament (you couldn't make this stuff up)

"You made me learn game. You made it very clear that being nice, chivalrous, and patient was not the way to have sex with you. You let me know that being your friend, listening to your problems, and supporting you through hard times would only result in me getting to hear you fuck other guys. You pushed me to approach a million women to improve my ability to get laid.

You made me a selfish asshole. You rewarded me with sex when I treated you poorly. Your pussy got wetter the less I respected you. You made me go against my kind nature by being more cocky and arrogant.

You made me emotionally cold. You punished me any time I told you my feelings. You lost interest in me whenever I showed you basic human affection before you gave me affection first. You showed me that the less I concerned myself with your well-being, the more you did what I wanted.

You made me go for shallow one-night stands. You wouldn’t return my call even though we had what you admitted was a great conversation. You would flake and disappear for no obvious reason, making me feel like a piece of shit. You made me view sex as a numbers game where I treat you as nothing more than a “prospect” towards my sexual needs, an entry in my cell phone that represented possible sex, not a human being I wanted to build something with. You gave me no choice but to speed up all interactions at caveman speedso I could at least get a nut.

You made me leave America. Your entitled attitude become unbearable and your appearance disgusting. You have lost what it means to be a woman and what it takes to make a man happy. You have so little value to give yet you still expect Prince Charming to one day sweep you off your feet. You are a corrupted and damaged female, and have tried your damnedest to bring me down to your level.

The more game I learned and the more women I approached, the more sex I got. The more I worried about my needs and the more I treated you like crap, the more you went out of your way to please me. The colder I was to you, the more likely you’d want to be with me. The faster I went for sex, the less you flaked on me. The more time I spent away from America, the happier I became.

You made me hate feminism. You made me forget about marriage. You made me a voice for men who have gone through the same struggles that I have. The interactions I have with a woman tomorrow is entirely due to your influence and how you’ve treated me the past fifteen years. Who I am stems from your responses to my attempts at fulfilling my biological urge of sleeping with you. You’ve shaped my game and views towards women every time you rejected me and every time you opened your legs. You made me who I am, and every day you create one thousand men who are just like me."

A lot of anger in there, and I understand it in general. His conclusions are in error in my opinion.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Roosh's lament (you couldn't make this stuff up)

"You made me learn game. You made it very clear that being nice, chivalrous, and patient was not the way to have sex with you. You let me know that being your friend, listening to your problems, and supporting you through hard times would only result in me getting to hear you fuck other guys. You pushed me to approach a million women to improve my ability to get laid.

You made me a selfish asshole. You rewarded me with sex when I treated you poorly. Your pussy got wetter the less I respected you. You made me go against my kind nature by being more cocky and arrogant.

You made me emotionally cold. You punished me any time I told you my feelings. You lost interest in me whenever I showed you basic human affection before you gave me affection first. You showed me that the less I concerned myself with your well-being, the more you did what I wanted.

You made me go for shallow one-night stands. You wouldn’t return my call even though we had what you admitted was a great conversation. You would flake and disappear for no obvious reason, making me feel like a piece of shit. You made me view sex as a numbers game where I treat you as nothing more than a “prospect” towards my sexual needs, an entry in my cell phone that represented possible sex, not a human being I wanted to build something with. You gave me no choice but to speed up all interactions at caveman speedso I could at least get a nut.

You made me leave America. Your entitled attitude become unbearable and your appearance disgusting. You have lost what it means to be a woman and what it takes to make a man happy. You have so little value to give yet you still expect Prince Charming to one day sweep you off your feet. You are a corrupted and damaged female, and have tried your damnedest to bring me down to your level.

The more game I learned and the more women I approached, the more sex I got. The more I worried about my needs and the more I treated you like crap, the more you went out of your way to please me. The colder I was to you, the more likely you’d want to be with me. The faster I went for sex, the less you flaked on me. The more time I spent away from America, the happier I became.

You made me hate feminism. You made me forget about marriage. You made me a voice for men who have gone through the same struggles that I have. The interactions I have with a woman tomorrow is entirely due to your influence and how you’ve treated me the past fifteen years. Who I am stems from your responses to my attempts at fulfilling my biological urge of sleeping with you. You’ve shaped my game and views towards women every time you rejected me and every time you opened your legs. You made me who I am, and every day you create one thousand men who are just like me."

He sounds shockingly like Eliot Rodgers. There's violence lurking under that much hate. I wonder if it'll display itself as rape or rape/murder?

 

[camouflage]

Personally, I don't see the use of 'cunt' as an insult as necessarily sexist, any more than prick, nob, arsehole, twat, dick, penis, etc etc. It's a hangover from Victorian prudishness - the 'unmentionables' are mentioned!

In the US it's definitely a word for attacking women... but then again who cares what the yanks think is happening.

 

[Rebelda]

Always find this sort of thing ironic, calling someone a "cunt" because they said something sexist. A few months ago, someone I know was told to "go suck a nob" or something similar, the guy was condemned (rightly) for using this expression against her, but then he was denounced as a "cunt".

If you mean, because cunts are excellent things, then I take your point. If you mean insulting him in general, then

 

[littlebabyjesus]

In the US it's definitely a word for attacking women... but then again who cares what the yanks think is happening.

But it was used here to refer to a man, UK-stylee.

Do we have to post in US-eze now?

 

[camouflage]

He sounds shockingly like Eliot Rodgers. There's violence lurking under that much hate. I wonder if it'll display itself as rape or rape/murder?

Some men can't handle repeated rejection, turns em sour, then bitter, then hateful. Sometimes murderously so.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

This stuff is big in the - online - US. Only ever met one person doing it in the UK and he got laughed at, by me. But then I was the only other man in a crowd of young women so he presumably fancied his odds. As you say, it's funny until it's not, which for me was when I realized he was preying on women he thought were vulnerable, not just trying it on everyone.

E2a: They weren't vulnerable, they'd have broken him, but he'd profiled them in his own mind.

Yuck. Creepy and vile.

 

[agricola]

Leaving aside this Roosh and his 'views' on rape, and the outright hate in other MRA writings / comments, I get really confused when I read the PUA stuff, or look at their youtube 'how to' videos: It's comedy until quite suddenly it's not funny at all, if you know what I mean. Stuff like this.
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I came into contact with all this via the word 'negging', which I'd never heard before and I think is a PUA coinage.

99% of it is people looking to scam other, rather more vulnerable, people out of money, though - just as these scandals are welcomed by their ilk because it gives them publicity that they would never get otherwise.

Really the only appropriate response to Roosh is to just hand out leaflets of his lament that Miss Caphat posted above - which could basically be used, without any changes, as one of those self-justifying notes left behind by a serial killer after they have been caught.

 

[camouflage]

If you mean, because cunts are excellent things, then I take your point. If you mean insulting him in general, then

Cunts are excellent things, I've never understood the logic of referring to them as an insult.

 

[Rebelda]

Recent rally in support of Roosh V.

Kings among men.

 

[Rebelda]

That's in the uk isn't it. I wonder if one of them is 'tl/dr'?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Some men can't handle repeated rejection, turns em sour, then bitter, then hateful. Sometimes murderously so.

Was it the rejection that turned him or was he rejected because he was recognized for the creepy sociopath he is. Maybe he just got better at being a sociopath over time.

 

[camouflage]

Was the rejection that turned him or was he rejected because he was recognized for the creepy sociopath he is.

He probably started off... sweet, sensitive even. According to his testimony quoted above, it's when he started acting like a creepy sociopath he finally started to get somewhere.

 

[agricola]

Some men can't handle repeated rejection, turns em sour, then bitter, then hateful. Sometimes murderously so.

I don't know how true that is; I think there is at least as much damage caused by men who mentally establish their own ideal / "what they deserve" and then repeatedly fail to realize it.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

He probably started off... sweet, sensitive even. According to his testimony quoted above, it's when he started acting like a creepy sociopath he finally started to get somewhere.

Having been the recipient of such sweetness, I kinda doubt it. He probably just got better at manipulating people.

He's not manipulating men less than women, he's just manipulating them differently.