Roosh V, Pro-Rape Pick Up Artist, Announces Worldwide 'Tribal Meetings'

[sim667]

It is true. Women watch mainly lesbian porn. Why do you find this odd? Seems perfectly predictable to me.

Its true because you say so?

Im not really interested in your sexual fantasies, if I'm totally honest though.

 

[phildwyer]

Prove it.

Look at the link Bimble posted.

QEbloodyD.

And with that, it's time for breakfast.

 

[phildwyer]

Its true because you say so?

It's true because it's true. Women prefer lesbian porn to other types. Everyone knows it's true. Except, apparently, you.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's true because it's true. Women prefer lesbian porn to other types. Everyone knows it's true. Except, apparently, you.

everybody knows that you've been faithful, give or take a night or two

 

[phildwyer]

everybody knows that you've been faithful, give or take a night or two

Everybody knows the nice guys lost.

 

[Pickman's model]

Everybody knows the nice guys lost.

yeh but it's because they have no genuine interest in women.

 

[Rebelda]

Look at the link Bimble posted.

QEbloodyD.

And with that, it's time for breakfast.

Fair enough. It's a close call:



Probably influenced by gay women, I would hasten to add. In any case, I don't see how you conclude that this proves that women aren't sexually motivated by physical attraction. Straw man.

 

[J Ed]

Well this has been a weird diversion

 

[Rebelda]

Well this has been a weird diversion

And I thought it was going to be the krtek thing

 

[weepiper]

Tbh Pornhub dividing its female visitors into preferences tells us nothing about whether 'women like lesbian porn'. It just tells us what the women that have visited Pornhub have watched.

 

[bimble]

Everybody knows the nice guys lost.

yeh but it's because they have no genuine interest in women.

At least one of you was joking.. right?

 

[phildwyer]

Tbh Pornhub dividing its female visitors into preferences tells us nothing about whether 'women like lesbian porn'. It just tells us what the women that have visited Pornhub have watched.

You think they watch it because they don't like it?

 

[phildwyer]

At least one of you was joking.. right?

Song lyrics. In-joke. Sort of.

 

[bimble]

You think they watch it because they don't like it?

Err.. how does this bit (women like watching lesbian porn) fit with your argument that 'women's sexuality' is all about being dominated by big strong mens??

 

[weepiper]

You think they watch it because they don't like it?

I think you can't say 'women who have visited Pornhub' and 'women' are the same thing.

 

[phildwyer]

Probably influenced by gay women, I would hasten to add.

Er... yes, I think we can safely say that.

 

[phildwyer]

I think you can't say 'women who have visited Pornhub' and 'women' are the same thing.

Fair enough. Female porn preferences probably reveal something about female sexual desire, and probably quite a lot, but I accept that it's complicated.

But anyway, I'm no longer going to debate the fact that, generally speaking, women are sexually attracted by male dominance/ status/ power. It's like debating whether the world is round.

Instead, we should be asking why people like Roosh are so unhappy with this fact.

I think it's because they find it unpleasant to accept that female sexuality is just as amoral as their own. They prefer to think of women as basically asexual, and wish that women would be sexually attracted to men on the basis of their "niceness." When they discover, thanks to feminism, that women are in fact just as amoral as themselves when it comes to sexual attraction, their heads explode.

 

[Rebelda]

I think you'll find it's because it's like you're debating that the world is flat.

 

[bimble]

But anyway, I'm no longer going to debate the fact that, generally speaking, women are sexually attracted by male dominance/ status/ power. It's like debating whether the world is round.

Instead, we should be asking why people like Roosh are so unhappy with this fact.

You're completely wrong-ending the stick.
What he is so cross about is that women no longer need big strong mamouth hunting men, to survive in the jungle etc. So machismo / masculinity is in tragic decline etc.

eg) "Traditional gender roles are best exemplified in modern Muslim societies where the man provides while the woman takes care of the home. A woman submits to a man’s power because, as dictated by nature, men have been given more intellect and strength than women. Traditional gender roles are opposed to the uglification, masculinization, and slutification that enablers advance in Western society today."
http://www.rooshv.com/traditional-gender-roles-create-feminine-women

 

[camouflage]

Fair enough. Female porn preferences probably reveal something about female sexual desire, and probably quite a lot, but I accept that it's complicated.

But anyway, I'm no longer going to debate the fact that, generally speaking, women are sexually attracted by male dominance/ status/ power. It's like debating whether the world is round.

Instead, we should be asking why people like Roosh are so unhappy with this fact.

I think it's because they find it unpleasant to accept that female sexuality is just as amoral as their own. They prefer to think of women as basically asexual, and wish that women would be sexually attracted to men on the basis of their "niceness." When they discover, thanks to feminism, that women are in fact just as amoral as themselves when it comes to sexual attraction, their heads explode.

I wouldn't describe a desire to connect with another human being on an intimate level as 'amoral' in any sense, perhaps less complex then other types of interaction, sometimes even perverse. I think you may be nearer the mark when you speak of Rooshists being offended by an idea you/they have that women are attracted to power... perhaps somewhere deep down inside they feel they have none.

Anyway who isn't attracted to power; money, beauty, physical fitness, the ability to command others, to make ones own choices... all heady powerful stuff. I'd sign up.

 

[camouflage]

You're completely wrong-ending the stick.
What he & his ilk are so cross about is that women no longer need men, to survive in the jungle etc. So machismo is in tragic decline etc.

To be fair, I suspect a lot of men have never felt the need to be needed by women in the first place. I reckon it's just something that's said about us (men) as if it's a majority truth and accepted because Patriarchy, therefore proof. If anything a lot of men run screaming for the hills as soon as some form of the "n" word looms after a shag or two has been had.

 

[phildwyer]

I wouldn't describe a desire to connect with another human being on an intimate level as 'amoral' in any sense, perhaps less complex then other types of interaction, sometimes even perverse.

Well male sexuality is amoral in the sense that it is primarily concentrated on physical beauty, and physical beauty is not a moral quality. I think female sexuality is equally amoral, but we've done that one to death by now.

I think you may be nearer the mark when you speak of Rooshists being offended by an idea you/they have that women are attracted to power... perhaps somewhere deep down inside they feel they have none.

They feel that they don't have enough power to attract what they call "quality women." They also feel that they should not need to have power in order to attract such women. And above all, they blame women for finding power attractive. That's the root of their psychosis.

Anyway who isn't attracted to power

I'll tell you who: men. Men do not, generally speaking, consider the amount of power a woman wields as a factor in their sexual attractiveness. That is the difference between male sexuality and female, like wot I said.

 

[bimble]

I'll tell you who: men. Men do not, generally speaking, consider the amount of power a woman wields as a factor in their sexual attractiveness. That is the difference between male sexuality and female, like wot I said.

No, powerful women are not sexy at all, they're bossy haridans, etc etc. Boring. Go have your breakfast Phil.

 

[camouflage]

Well male sexuality is amoral in the sense that it is primarily concentrated on physical beauty, and physical beauty is not a moral quality. I think female sexuality is equally amoral, but we've done that one to death by now.



They feel that they don't have enough power to attract what they call "quality women." They also feel that they should not need to have power in order to attract such women. And above all, they blame women for finding power attractive. That's the root of their psychosis.



I'll tell you who: men. Men do not, generally speaking, consider the amount of power a woman wields as a factor in their sexual attractiveness. That is the difference between male sexuality and female, like wot I said.

Beauty is a form of power, some women actually wield it. Tell me it's not a form of power when a woman I like the look of a lot makes me stutter and talk nonsense simply by raising an eyebrow or swishing her hair or something. Power has many forms, it's not all money and engines.

 

[Vintage Paw]

I haven't quite got to the end of the thread but I suggest Dwyer does a little research into slash and yaoi in particular, and frankly just anything to do with fandom in general, and then come back and talk about women and the sorts of things they find sexually attractive.

 

[bimble]

raising an eyebrow

Anybody who can raise a single eyebrow whilst the other one stays in place, that person has sex appeal / power.

 

[phildwyer]

Beauty is a form of power, some women actually wield it. Tell me it's not a form of power when a woman I like the look of a lot makes me stutter and talk nonsense simply by raising an eyebrow or swishing her hair.

It's power based on physical beauty. Without physical beauty it would not exist. So physical beauty is the root of the attraction.

 

[camouflage]

It's power based on physical beauty. Without physical beauty it would not exist. So physical beauty is the root of the attraction.

Yes- physical beauty is a form of power, that's what I said. More so when the person knows how to use it as power. Not that I'm saying good looks are the only forms of power available to women or that men could be attracted to. Some women are very attractive because of a way they have about them, where more conventionally attractive women seem boring in comparison.

 

[phildwyer]

No, powerful women are not sexy at all

As you're probably aware, there are quite a few men who think this--who find female power actively off-putting. I imagine Roosh is one such.

However there are very few women who find male power actively off-putting.

And thus once again we see the difference.

 

[Buckaroo]

Anybody who can raise a single eyebrow whilst the other one stays in place, that person has sex appeal / power.