Rochdale by-election
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yep to all of that. Norden (much of it anyway) and Bamford are very posh. However, part of Norden is now in with Heywood and Middleton next door (I think I, wrongly, said both Norden and Bamford had been moved out upthread).
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
The Liberal, Paul Rowen, was an arsehole as well. When I worked for the council in the committee's section he had a reputation for being a twat towards staff. Not surprisingly, Smith was an absolute shit towards 'pen pushers' and the like, always positioning himself against the 'town hall bureaucrats'. That of course wasn't his biggest problem.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I don't think that piece has it right about this being the most toxic by election in living history. Galloway' v Oona King and also his Bradford victory were far more toxic. However, this one only fails to top the list because he hasn't really got a Labour opponent.
‘We don’t deserve this’: Rochdale voters left cold by byelection chaos
Disappointment in the candidates is palpable in the town, where people feel let down and neglected by the main partieswww.theguardian.com
hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
Hadn't given it any thought until you asked, tbh. Is your guess that they're most likely to be from an enthusiastic amateur or what? The article cites Michael Crick as reckoning that he's campaigning along those lines, but the link just goes to a tweet with one of the images. Suppose that's one of the things about stuff that circulates on WhatsApp or wherever, once it gets into circulation there's no way of saying whether it's made by the official campaign with plausible deniability, or by an independent supporter, or even by someone completely different with a different agenda.
Fwiw, in the unlikely event that Ali were to ask me for advice, I would probably tell him that the route to success that goes through loyalty to Starmer appears to be closed off for him, and so his most realistic prospect for career advancement is to position himself as an anti-Starmer figure along those lines, but then it is very very unlikely that Ali would be asking me for advice, so who knows?
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Either a simple 'I'm really the Lab candidate ' or 'I'm really the Lab candidate but support the Palestinians' are his choices, I'd have thought. His real problem is he'll have lost all of his campaigning structure/support. From having the opportunity to knock on thousands of doors and deliver tens if thousands of further leaflets, he's now a random on social media. His moment of conspiraloonery wasn't great though (perhaps) understandable given the stuff swirling around at the time. But of course, this fuck up is entirely a consequence of the thing starmer has made the Labour Party
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
And they call themselves populists
andysays
Love and solidarity
Another twist in the ongoing saga
Rochdale by-election candidate Simon Danczuk 'received death threats'
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
BA'ATHIST GAIN from Labour looks almost inevitable now. Only the postals can save the not-Labour candidate. Suspect turnout will be in the high teens / low twenties; a few opinion pieces have suggested many aren't bothering, as they know here will be another election in six months anyway, and don't want to dignify this circus.
A problem for Reform is that they have talked up their candidate and underestimated the toxicity and revulsion at what ended his political career with Labour. If they trail in a pisspoor fourth then that will be damaging for Richard Tice, a man who looks like he's playing the part of a hard nosed business tycoon in a low-rent Thames TV drama from the early 80s. I wonder if a pisspoor result might animate Farage into taking over the party again.
Galloway is making bellicose noises about re-opening an indoor market and Rochdale AFC facing liquidation. Beyond rhetorical flatulence hard to see what he can do about that. And he'll be out on his arse later in the year.
A problem for Reform is that they have talked up their candidate and underestimated the toxicity and revulsion at what ended his political career with Labour. If they trail in a pisspoor fourth then that will be damaging for Richard Tice, a man who looks like he's playing the part of a hard nosed business tycoon in a low-rent Thames TV drama from the early 80s. I wonder if a pisspoor result might animate Farage into taking over the party again.
Galloway is making bellicose noises about re-opening an indoor market and Rochdale AFC facing liquidation. Beyond rhetorical flatulence hard to see what he can do about that. And he'll be out on his arse later in the year.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Definitely something of the Ken Barlow about Tice isn’t there?
Yeah, either that or one of those not-commissioned-after-the-pilot shows about a down-at-heel gumshoe battling alcoholism whilst trying to do the right thing. In a Ford Capri.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
He promised to rebuild central Bradford after victory in West. He's a "maverick" on the stumps and "typical politician" thereafter.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
What, he's also not guilty of sexually assaulting several girls aged 12-16?
Definitely something of the Ken Barlow about Tice isn’t there?
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
I did put a cheeky bet on the lib dems - at 25/1 - right after Labour pulled the plug - as they might just get votes from ex-tories who can't face voting Labour - and Labour voters who can't stand GG. And there might be votes from reform who realise they can't win and also can't stand GG.
It was a cheeky bet - the by-election is a bit pointless as the winner will be an MP for a few months before the big show.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
More tips, please .
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Don't eat the yellow snow.
gosub
~#
Poor bastards...generally feel sorry for thems that have to endure the circus that is a by election. Yep you are right will to do it all again in a few months
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
That bet is so cheeky it’s off out for a pint and a Nando’s
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
A man needs a cheeky nandos once in a while
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
I salute the courage and indefatigably of the people of Rochdale!
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
My prediction: Galloway will win, and rather than this being viewed as people democratically making a protest about the government and Labour's actions on Gaza, it will be taken as further evidence of the terrifying danger to democracy of an Islamic mob.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
If he doesn't win he'll sue.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Heavy & pretty deluded copium already on Labour List
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