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Re-opening Schools?

I think - hard as it may be to believe - the Government has a plan here.

Let cases mount in schools (and Universities) until theres widespread pressure from parents (students) to shut.

Government can "bow" to the pressure and thus wash it's hands of the decision to close, claiming it tried to keep open but people couldn't follow the rules.

Meanwhile with every day that passes ££££££.
 
I think - hard as it may be to believe - the Government has a plan here.

Let cases mount in schools (and Universities) until theres widespread pressure from parents (students) to shut.

Government can "bow" to the pressure and thus wash it's hands of the decision to close, claiming it tried to keep open but people couldn't follow the rules.

Meanwhile with every day that passes ££££££.
It's not a very good plan, but one worthy of baldrick johnson
 
The village school here had a positive case in year 1 so sent the whole year home, but then had another positive case in another year and decided to just exclude that child and their siblings but keep the rest of the year group bubble in school. :facepalm:
Schools are being pressured not to send whole classes home but just look at "close contacts". Obviously in primary that's bullshit. My Year 6 child sits on a desk with two others facing the front during class but in the playground they're all wrestling with each other.
 
Schools are being pressured not to send whole classes home but just look at "close contacts". Obviously in primary that's bullshit. My Year 6 child sits on a desk with two others facing the front during class but in the playground they're all wrestling with each other.

Yeah. I was speaking with my sister who is a primary school teacher and teaches 6 year olds. All her's have various forms of sniffles and coughs and as you say with the best laid plans regarding distancing they are still 6 year olds. Its just impossible.
 
I read the guidance and saw that they don't have to send home a whole bubble just close contacts. Unclear whether that would include teachers - especially if they're pretending teachers can teach far enough away in a ventilated environment. :hmm:
(secondary).
 
Gathering in 6 is banned but kids have to go to school. They've not thought this through have they.

That's not true though. It is thought through. There's been huge numbers of people and organisations pressurizing for schools to open from a whole host of directions, including lots motivated by concern for child welfare and long term prospects. In some ways the gathering limit is to try and balance that out.

I have huge concerns about the way this is being handled and the (lack of) resources provided, but hardly anyone is saying schools should have stayed shut now.
 
I read the guidance and saw that they don't have to send home a whole bubble just close contacts. Unclear whether that would include teachers - especially if they're pretending teachers can teach far enough away in a ventilated environment. :hmm:
(secondary).
When test & trace called me they were only interested in face to face contact under a 1m, skin to skin contact or under 2m for more than 15 minutes. So I will assume in most classes over early years they're going to say teachers shouldn't be that close.
 
I have huge concerns about the way this is being handled and the (lack of) resources provided, but hardly anyone is saying schools should have stayed shut now.

My stance is that they should not have reopened at full capacity. There should have been a staggered relaunch and some kind of rotation, but that wouldnt fit the governments wider economic priorities. And we should have pushed the rate of virus in the community lower in previous months, to have the best change of making the school reopening a success. eg by reopening other things at a different pace to what was done, not encouraging the mad holiday dash and the dash back when countries were added to quarantine list. But that would not have met the governments wider economic priorities either.

As for the future, they probably still have plans where they hope to have periods of damping down infections every so often by making school holidays longer and combining them with a period of lockdown. But things spiralled so quickly last time that they never got a chance to do it like that, they had to go further for longer instead, and the timing didnt line up nicely with holidays. The same could easily happen again this time.
 
When test & trace called me they were only interested in face to face contact under a 1m, skin to skin contact or under 2m for more than 15 minutes. So I will assume in most classes over early years they're going to say teachers shouldn't be that close.
Exactly.
 
Sigh.

Aaarghhhhhhh!

Get this.

Had a conversation with a staff member yesterday outlining my vulnerability. She was very empathetic as her 83 year old mother has the same condition as one I've got.

Fast forward to today. That same staff member got sent home at 11am. She'd come into briefing coughing her guts up first thing. Went home feeling ill at 11. After telling management she'd had no sense of taste or smell since Monday. At no point when I spoke to her about my vulnerability did she mention this.
So she's come to school for 3 days knowing she has symptoms associated with Covid. Because of her job, she is probably the staff member who has greatest close contact with the most number of kids.

Although I found out at midday she'd gone home and why, we weren't officially told anything until afternoon briefing at 3pm. And even then we were told "well as long as you've been socially distancing from her you should be alright".

Obviously I raised the contact with the kids point, who then all have contact with us. I asked for it to be confirmed she knew she had Covid symptoms dating from Monday. This was confirmed. I said "great" - and walked out.

Since then I have been bombarded with apologetic calls from management who have told me I can stay home - first (by one) until we get the results of her test and then by a higher manager was told 'for as long as I like until I feel comfortable. So, belatedly, they are at least being nice about this.

But what sort of fucking idiot comes to a school in the middle of a global pandemic knowingly with symptoms and says nothing? Those reading my posts on here know how disillusioned I am with some of my fellow staff - this is just a technicolour illustration of what I meant. It has destroyed my faith in people to do the right thing.

And there are two possibilities in my mind now.

First, the worst, that she is positive and there is a chance I could be fucked because of one person's utter irresponsibility.

And, and I have to say this, second...that she is actually making it up. It's not beyond her. She's full of shit at the best of times. She could easily fancy a couple of days off thinking there are no other consequences. The coughing this morning could be seen as theatrical. And we only have her word about the loss of taste/smell. And this is causing me unbelievable stress she obviously doesn't care about or understand.

My GP has been as reassuring as she can be. Slamming into this staff member for being irresponsible, but saying it's a tale she hears all too much. People not taking it seriously, people thinking they are invincible, people just not getting the transmission and contacts thing.

So now, for my own peace of mind, I sit here thinking up scenarios where it's going to be alright, that it's all bullshit on her part. While wondering if it is and completely failing to get my head around how someone can act like this in either scenario I've presented in the middle of a global pandemic.

I am...fucking livid. This doesn't just affect me. I have an older partner. Our lives now changed over the next few days. Let's hope it is just the next few days.

Fuck this.
 
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