Question Time tonight

[stavros]

Dickhead No1. ' why can't we push the dinghy's back to France, back to the traffickers'.
Dickhead No 2. ' stop the PIRATES by getting the French to STAB the dinghy's.
So we've got pirates now as well. Braverman missed that lot!

I think it was number 1 who looked uncannily like Clare Short.

The trouble with Mogg, more so than the peers of his youth who've ended up in the same party, is that he says everything with such quiet authority, irrespective of how nasty, short-sighted and simply wrong it is. It becomes harder to immediately refute, for me at least, regardless of the fact that I know, based on his history, that's almost certainly wrong. He was batting for Braverman last night, and has been alongside Dorries as the foremost Johnson groupie in recent years. His thoughts on most matters will be largely equivalent to those three, but his delivery draws listeners, including me, into much deeper consideration of his point.

He needs a better interrogator than Bruce to puncture his arrogance.

 

[Calamity1971]

think it was number 1 who looked uncannily like Clare Short.

 

[kabbes]

At least she recognises that people drowning at sea is potentially not on. Not so much so as to prevent it, but it might be worth a tutt or something.

 

[two sheds]

Mogg hasn't really changed since that film of him sat in the back of a taxi when he was about 10? saying how rich he wanted to be.

 

[stavros]

Having said that, an open goal was missed by everyone - Bruce and fellow panelists - when Mogg asked what Israel was supposed to do when innocent citizens were attacked.

By not doing the equivalent thing in reverse?

 

[stavros]

Isabel Oakeshott again? I thought they had a deep enough pool of batshit crazy right wing hacks* they could go to that they didn't have to depend on one who makes up stories she claims to be incisive journalism.

*Please note, I am not advocating for the return of Mad Mel and her like.

 

[hash tag]

Am just watching on catch up; Alison McGovern doesn't strike me as very confident.

 

[hash tag]

Isabel Oakeshott again? I thought they had a deep enough pool of batshit crazy right wing hacks*

She is as bad tonight, if not worse than ever before.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Am just watching on catch up; Alison McGovern doesn't strike me as very confident.

Awful. Deadly centrist waffle. Like watching the Blairites in the 90’s

 

[stavros]

The Tory said the government weren't making "incontinent" spending decisions, presumably a reference all the shit they come out with.

 

[stavros]

An open letter from a comms academic about the right wing imbalance of QT panels, it seems triggered by Oakeshott's repeated appearances: An open letter to the BBC

 

[oryx]

An open letter from a comms academic about the right wing imbalance of QT panels, it seems triggered by Oakeshott's repeated appearances: An open letter to the BBC

That's a great letter. Hopefully he'll publish his reply.

 

[stavros]

I like how he counts Farage as a non-politician.

Speaking of those who only do politics in their spare time, Esther McVey is on next week.

 

[stavros]

So, let's brainstorm unwoke questions for McVey, which I'm sure she'd welcome.

"Why did your brother Timothy inherit all the charm?"

 

[hash tag]

Esther McVey, the minister for silly walks

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

From last nights performance, the revolting Andrew Neill has become a living parody of the despair, nihilism, amorality and decay of late capitalism… His view of the Middle East situation (and probably much of the rest of the world) is racist dismissal and detachment. Whilst on domestic issues he shamelessly decries the decay that people (propagandists for neoliberalism) in his position have been instrumental in creating and calls for more performative cruelty towards what he sees as his lazy inferiors.

 

[Calamity1971]

I'm guessing my neighbours heard me shouting at this point

 

[Calamity1971]

Esther McVey, the minister for silly walks

Zoe Lyons didn't get much of a platform after that. Fuck Bruce.

 

[belboid]

I'm guessing my neighbours heard me shouting at this point

what happened on May 7th??

 

[danny la rouge]

what happened on May 7th??

Isaack B Fubine of Savoy, in The Hague, patents macaroni (1660).

 

[stavros]

McVey seemed very keen to display her anti-lockdown credentials.

 

[belboid]

McVey seemed very keen to display her anti-lockdown credentials.

not many others she could display

 

[GarveyLives]

Esther McVey, the minister for silly walks

The Right Honourable Esther McVey MP, Minister for Trash Talking, Question Time, BBC1, 30 November 2023.​

 

[redsquirrel]

I'm guessing my neighbours heard me shouting at this point

He's kind of right about the two-state 'solution' - even if for the wrong reasons

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I'm guessing my neighbours heard me shouting at this point

He did maintain a strong defence of immigration levels in the UK. Clearly explained the benefits: protect the ability of employers to exploit unorganised workers and hold down pay, and to provide an endless flow of monetary income to the now entirely financialised UK higher education sector.

Unusual to hear such a robust defence stripped down to its raw exploitative reality and it put the Labour and Tory politicians on the back foot in their attempts to dress matters up with the usual neoliberal moral sheen.

 

[Calamity1971]

He did maintain a strong defence of immigration levels in the UK. Clearly explained the benefits: protect the ability of employers to exploit unorganised workers and hold down pay, and to provide an endless flow of monetary income to the now entirely financialised UK higher education sector.

Unusual to hear such a robust defence stripped down to its raw exploitative reality and it put the Labour and Tory politicians on the back foot in their attempts to dress matters up with the usual neoliberal moral sheen.

Yes, I was surprised to be agreeing with him on a lot of points. It was his matter of fact attitude to , " let the deaths play out" that enraged me. Although he is Mr monotone.

 

[teqniq]

This is quite remarkable:



e2a even more so because she was apparently insulted by both Andrew Neil who called her stupid and Esther McVey who insulted her family.

 

[not a trot]

This is quite remarkable:



e2a even more so because she was apparently insulted by both Andrew Neil who called her stupid and Esther McVey who insulted her family.

Meanwhile the killings go on.

 

[belboid]

Peter Hitchens has just declared Starmzy a Pabloite!

This is what we pay the license fee for.

 

[stavros]

He also claimed "Sir Anthony Blair" caused the break-up of the United Kingdom.