Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[brogdale]

Saw or suspected nothing.

“At no stage during the limited time I spent with him did I see, witness or suspect any behaviour of the sort that subsequently led to his arrest and conviction,” the duke said.

“I have said previously that it was a mistake and an error to see him after his release [from prison] in 2010 and I can only reiterate my regret that I was mistaken to think that what I thought I knew of him was evidently not the real person, given what we now know.”

Well, that'll close the matter obviously.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Denials are amusing given those issuing them seldom have an incentive to say differently.

 

[Poi E]

So he did not witness the specific events Epstein was convicted for. Perhaps why the DA didn't call him as a witness

 

[tim]

Prince Andrew retires from not doing very much really to concentrate on being a Royal.

Until Brenda goes, after which he'll be diving into a butt of Malmsey.

 

[brogdale]

So he did not witness the specific events Epstein was convicted for. Perhaps why the DA didn't call him as a witness

Yep, a 'denial' so limited in scope that you have to wonder at the panic amongst his people behind the scenes.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Yep, a 'denial' so limited in scope that you have to wonder at the panic amongst his people behind the scenes.

As more details come out about his 'limited time' with Epstein, it may well morph into 'I did not suspect but I accept that I should have done', the Albert Speer defence. One thing in his favour in selling that line - given who he is, being such a total moron isn't so unbelievable.

 

[brogdale]

Looks like Windsor is admitting to meeting/staying with Epstein on between 20 to 40 occasions.

"During the time I knew him, I saw him infrequently and probably no more than only once or twice a year," the 59-year-old prince said.

"I have stayed in a number of his residences. At no stage during the limited time I spent with him did I see, witness or suspect any behaviour of the sort that subsequently led to his arrest and conviction."

The duke - who said he first met Epstein in 1999 - added that he had "tremendous sympathy" for all those affected by Epstein's behaviour.

 

[Pickman's model]

Looks like Windsor is admitting to meeting/staying with Epstein on between 20 to 40 occasions.

How many times would most people visit someone convicted of noncery after their release, unless they were themselves a nonce?

 

[brogdale]

How many times would most people visit someone convicted of noncery after their release, unless they were themselves a nonce?

The nonce formerly known as Prince Andrew Ƭ̵̬̊

 

[tim]

As more details come out about his 'limited time' with Epstein, it may well morph into 'I did not suspect but I accept that I should have done', the Albert Speer defence. One thing in his favour in selling that line - given who he is, being such a total moron isn't so unbelievable.

It's very unbelievable.

 

[Poi E]

Article in the DM on the paedo prince and the second most popular comment was "ban the royals" after "what the hell?". Some clickbait in hating royals it seems.

 

[andysays]

Looks like Windsor is admitting to meeting/staying with Epstein on between 20 to 40 occasions.

Even noted royal toady Nicholas Witchell recognises that it's "somewhat unlikely this statement will quell the questions about Andrew's good sense and judgement"...

 

[MickiQ]

There's a sliding scale between not knowing and not suspecting and somewhere on that scale is not actually knowing but surely suspecting and I find it hard to believe that he didn't at least have an idea. He didn't just know Epstein, they seemed to be good friends after all casual acquaintances don't go round setting you
up with girls the same age as your daughter (neither do friends in my experience but he and I move in different circles)
He continues to deny any relationship with Virginia Roberts yet independent evidence continues to mount to support her story. She was 17 at the time so him sleeping with her (allegedly) wasn't actually a crime but middle aged men having sex with 17 yr olds and denying it doesn't really do much for his credibility.

 

[Wilf]

Looks like Windsor is admitting to meeting/staying with Epstein on between 20 to 40 occasions.

Initially, I thought your maths was out there, assuming he didn't see him again after the 2010 photo was shot (which would mean he saw once or twice a year 1999-2010). But actually, that statement leaves open the notion he has seen him since 2010. Maybe not since the court case where the judge decided evidence about Windsor was inadmissible (around 2015?) but certainly since 2010. Perhaps he really is that stupid.

 

[Wilf]

There's a sliding scale between not knowing and not suspecting and somewhere on that scale is not actually knowing but surely suspecting and I find it hard to believe that he didn't at least have an idea. He didn't just know Epstein, they seemed to be good friends after all casual acquaintances don't go round setting you
up with girls the same age as your daughter (neither do friends in my experience but he and I move in different circles)
He continues to deny any relationship with Virginia Roberts yet independent evidence continues to mount to support her story. She was 17 at the time so him sleeping with her (allegedly) wasn't actually a crime but middle aged men having sex with 17 yr olds and denying it doesn't really do much for his credibility.

But it was in at least one of the jurisdictions it is alleged to have happened (along with the coercion/trafficking issue)

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It's very unbelievable.

Oh indeed. As Speer's story was. A tissue of lies. But like Speer, it could be enough to get him off.

 

[Wilf]

He's not going to spend a single night in a cell, the filthy scumbag. I doubt that his victims will get a penny either.

 

[Pickman's model]

He's not going to spend a single night in a cell, the filthy scumbag. I doubt that his victims will get a penny either.

Yeh let's hope he's shot 'trying to escape' before reaching the cells

 

[bluescreen]

Until Brenda goes, after which he'll be diving into a butt of Malmsey.

If I were Brenda, or anyone else in that household, I'd be keeping my hand firmly over my teacup till after Brexit. As for the Duke of whatever he's the Duke of, he should consider his position.
As they say.

 

[tim]

If I were Brenda, or anyone else in that household, I'd be keeping my hand firmly over my teacup till after Brexit. As for the Duke of whatever he's the Duke of, he should consider his position.
As they say.

He probably has, and considers it fairly safe. He doesn't strike me as a revolver and glass of whiskey type, so don't expect him to do anything honourable

 

[tim]

Here's a Duke being executed. I couldn't find a York so hope a Somerset will do

 

[likesfish]

There's a sliding scale between not knowing and not suspecting and somewhere on that scale is not actually knowing but surely suspecting and I find it hard to believe that he didn't at least have an idea. He didn't just know Epstein, they seemed to be good friends after all casual acquaintances don't go round setting you
up with girls the same age as your daughter (neither do friends in my experience but he and I move in different circles)
He continues to deny any relationship with Virginia Roberts yet independent evidence continues to mount to support her story. She was 17 at the time so him sleeping with her (allegedly) wasn't actually a crime but middle aged men having sex with 17 yr olds and denying it doesn't really do much for his credibility.

except when said 17year old has been trafficked and the consent is dubious
JAILED: 54-year-old prostitute user paid girl, 17, £200 for sex so yeah the prince of nocnes is heading for the big house

 

[brogdale]

Another revelation from flight log records held by courts, like the ones that place Windsor & Giuffre together on 3 occasions she alleges sex with him.



And another 'denial' of sorts:

A source close to Andrew said the prince had “no recollection” of being on the 1999 flight with Malova.

 

[tim]

except when said 17year old has been trafficked and the consent is dubious
JAILED: 54-year-old prostitute user paid girl, 17, £200 for sex so yeah the prince of nocnes is heading for the big house

Yes, this big house.

For a few days hunting and fishing. He's now got even more free time to fill, as he's no longer allowed to schmooze Central Asian despots

 

[likesfish]

The royals can be utterly ruthless so keep up the pressure.
And Prince of nonce might die in an unfortunate helicopter accident

 

[Pickman's model]

The royals can be utterly ruthless so keep up the pressure.
And Prince of nonce might die in an unfortunate helicopter accident

He will become an ambassador for water transport

 

[extra dry]

I predict, that he will slip off the 33th step of his 3rd home, 11.58pm. Any mason will understand, just ask David Icke

 

[brogdale]

TCJ's take...



"...this other stuff."

 

[dessiato]

Another revelation from flight log records held by courts, like the ones that place Windsor & Giuffre together on 3 occasions she alleges sex with him.

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And another 'denial' of sorts:

She looks so very young. Assuming that is from when she, allegedly, had sex with him he could not possibly have thought she was of age. Unless he was blind he could not have seen that.

 

[Sprocket.]

Is Epstein really dead!
Or living on Skull Island with Robert Maxwell and Lord Lucan?