cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Well, that news has cheered me up.
Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit
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Where’s Palm Springs? Is that Florida? Because it could be argued that was where she was trafficked from.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
"Virginia Giuffre's lawyer says she is "pleased that Prince Andrew’s motion to dismiss has been denied, and that evidence will now be taken concerning her claims against him".
In a statement released a short while ago, David Boies adds that his client "looks forward to a judicial determination of the merits of those claims".
In a statement released a short while ago, David Boies adds that his client "looks forward to a judicial determination of the merits of those claims".
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
yes, but they are funny about jury selection over there.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you can make such a sign now. best to have it made so you can display it the moment the nonce is found guilty.
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
...and he's not the brightest light on the road Christmas tree, by all accounts....I'm sure he's very capable of suspending his disbelief. it could be difficult for the prosecution to prove he knew.
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
it's civili litigation, so I suggest you add a footnote saying something about the balance of probabilities
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Guess Andrew is going to trial
Prince Andrew to face civil sex assault case after US ruling
Virginia Giuffre's claims against the Duke of York can continue to be heard, a US court says.www.bbc.co.uk
Good.
He's sweating now, reckon.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
footnotes never look good on banners or posters
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Starry Wisdom
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
I think it's where the alleged dirty deed took place that's important. it's a lower age for federal trafficking charges, I think, and not dependent on the age of consent at point of departure or arrival.
Athos
Well-Known Member
Yes, she's still got a lot to prove (albeit only on the balance of probabilities) to get home at trial. Won't be easy.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
fortunately the defendant is an arse who can be relied upon to make his sullied image look worse.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I would have thought that it was the height of bad manners, and indeed simply not done at all under any circumstances, to mention where any of the girls came from. They were simply there. The royal was used to such things (more things than people to him, no doubt) simply being there, presented to him as if they were his right.
If he were to admit to the sex but claim he didn't know about the trafficking, I'd be inclined to believe that bit could be true. He didn't know a) cos he's thick, b) cos he's an entitled twat who is used to being serviced, and c) cos, as you say, he didn't want to know, which was made easier by a) he's thick.
Morally, of course, that doesn't let him off. He fucking well should have known. But legally it might. The Albert Speer defence. (Speer was lying, though.)
Athos
Well-Known Member
They might be allowed to play the interview for impeachment purposes if he makes an inconsistent statement under oath. I suspect that's why she's seeking more detail about some of his harder to believe claims.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Palm Springs is where she recruited, iirc
The documentary, Jeffrey Epstein Filthy Rich has a lot of information, much from Virginia Guiffre herself, about the timeline. But I won't pretend it's an easy watch, and it does contain trigger warnings.
The documentary, Jeffrey Epstein Filthy Rich has a lot of information, much from Virginia Guiffre herself, about the timeline. But I won't pretend it's an easy watch, and it does contain trigger warnings.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Absurd as the 'no sweat' and pizza express defences were, I thought he must have something to back them up (doctored diary entries, verbal support from one of his flunkies, records from a dodgy doctor for the adrenaline thing etc). That he hasn't got any of is really quite astonishing. Well, it's not astonishing as it's not true, but astonishing in that he would say those things publicly. He genuinely thought this day would never come. Good.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yeah, but trafficking.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
He is exceptionally dim. He wouldn't survive any kind of court interrogation. They'll settle. They have no choice.
There is a much larger thing going on here then a court case. Even if the Panorama interview isn't admissible as evidence does anyone really believe they could mount the defence that he didn't know she was under 18?
How would that look after everyone in the country had seen the interview? He would be straight admitting that as a senior member of the royal family he told the country a total pack of lies.
The more I think about it the more I reckon this will never see the inside of a court room.
How would that look after everyone in the country had seen the interview? He would be straight admitting that as a senior member of the royal family he told the country a total pack of lies.
The more I think about it the more I reckon this will never see the inside of a court room.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I'd start gathering the materials together right now.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
But you can only settle with someone who wants to settle.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh it's this i think that will damn him. i would be rather surprised if he actually appears in the united states (i haven't been following with this with quite the assiduity it deserves, so maybe he's said he will). but it's the descent from 'i never met her and i can prove it' to 'you have to believe me i never met her' that will show the vacancy at the heart of his defence - that he's guilty as sin and has to mitigate rather than having the wherewithal to prove his innocence.
It’s because he’s stupid and his arrogance means he’s unwilling to listen to wiser heads.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
If you weren't fussed about the spelling you could start with some dough made from dried pea flour.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
The thing about people who are exceptionally dim is that they have no idea, nor even the capacity to understand, exactly how dim they are.
I wouldn't trust his lawyers to provide sage counsel either. Not if they stand to make more money from a trial than from a settlement.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
first catch a bed sheet and spray paint. make stencils of the slogan you wish to paint, then using masking tape attach to the sheet. secure the sheet outside and using the spray paint fill in the stencils. wait a minute, remove the stencils and allow to dry flat
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
To be fair, his dad groomed his mum so it's hardly unexpected.
But still, genuinely cheering news is so rare these days, so I'm making the most of this.
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