Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[keybored]

Tramps has always been a den of twats


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(Free entry and drinks for under 18's)

 

[quiet guy]

Andy isn't used to people not kowtowing to him. He's pushing his legal team and so far Judge Kaplan isn't having any of it.

 

[MickiQ]

So the left-leaning Urbs community are heaping praise upon a US judge, Strange Days Indeed.

EDIT: Mrs Q who so far has shown little to no interest in this case has offered her first pithy statement on it: 'He's in Deep Shit isn't he?'

 

[Calamity1971]

I reckon he'll fold way before then. Or have some kind of accident. Does he still enjoy flying?

Stray bullet 'on just another ordinary shooting weekend' ?

 

[mx wcfc]

Stray bullet 'on just another ordinary shooting weekend' ?

worked when the royal family wanted to get rid of William Rufus.

 

[existentialist]

Stray bullet 'on just another ordinary shooting weekend' ?

Perhaps Phil organised something before he kicked it?

 

[Sue]

So the left-leaning Urbs community are heaping praise upon a US judge, Strange Days Indeed.

Say what?

 

[UrbaneFox]

I reckon he'll fold way before then. Or have some kind of accident. Does he still enjoy flying?

All that pent-up sweat will probably turn into a cancerous boil, burst on the inside, and every bit of him will turn septic.

 

[AverageJoe]

Tbf, the judge has a very loose interpretation of "soon".

sings "Why are we waiting..." whilst banging my knife and fork on the table

 

[Magnus McGinty]

She's suing him, she wants him to pay her, getting paid without a trial is less expensive for her and a sure thing.

If she wins the trial he'll get the costs.

 

[bemused]

ugly

It's pragmatic.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Terrible stuff, though sadly not surprising.

It seems to be getting a bit harder to find clips on youtube from the original Spitting Image that involve Andrew than it used to be.

I did find one of the ones I could find in the past on youtube, but using twitter instead. But there used to be at least one other on youtube and I cant find it these days.

Always closer to the knuckle than we ever knew.

 

[teqniq]

So the left-leaning Urbs community are heaping praise upon a US judge, Strange Days Indeed.

Say what?

For my part so long as he does his job properly which he seems to be I have no great concerns. However I thought his name rang a bell. I believe he the same Lewis A. Kaplan who presided over the Steven Donzinger/Chevron case where he appears to have shown enormous bias in favour of the multinational. Thread I started on Urban here /derail.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Just checking back in. I take it the 'pretty soon' hasn't happened as of yet?

 

[brogdale]

ITN News at 10 leading on the sweaty nonce.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Fail headline…

 

[kenny g]

The trouble with paying her off is that no matter what any agreement says, people are going to point and say "Look he must be a nonce (sweaty or otherwise) because he paid her off to keep it from coming out in court' He is simply too high profile an individual to hope people will just forget about it. He needs to have his day in court and clear
As an extra bonus this has also probably seriously fucked the Sussexes chances of making it in Hollywood. Every chat show that Harry ever goes someone is bound to ask him about his uncle.

Edit: beat me to it on the joke front

 

[Sue]

Fail headline…

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Not exactly snappy as headlines go...

 

[Weller]

Where the Randy Andy nickname came from in his words went into the female quarters by mistake

 

[bemused]

The trouble with paying her off is that no matter what any agreement says, people are going to point and say "Look he must be a nonce (sweaty or otherwise) because he paid her off to keep it from coming out in court' He is simply too high profile an individual to hope people will just forget about it. He needs to have his day in court and clear his name to have any real chance of his old life back. Trouble is it's glaringly obvious he doesn't want his day in court.
As an extra bonus this has also probably seriously fucked the Sussexes chances of making it in Hollywood. Every chat show that Harry ever goes someone is bound to ask him about his uncle.

A settlement for her is a win because as you say everyone will assume he's guilty and she avoid reliving her trauma. Andrew is only going to want to go to trial if he's confident he'll win, to do that he'd need something pretty astonishing to do that - he's pictured with his victim, a convicted sexual trafficker and groomer at a paedophiles house.

 

[Wilf]

So the left-leaning Urbs community are heaping praise upon a US judge, Strange Days Indeed.

To be honest, in these dark times I'll take my justice from wherever it comes.

 

[not henry]

A settlement for her is a win because as you say everyone will assume he's guilty and she avoid reliving her trauma. Andrew is only going to want to go to trial if he's confident he'll win, to do that he'd need something pretty astonishing to do that - he's pictured with his victim, a convicted sexual trafficker and groomer at a paedophiles house.

clinton had his cock in a females mouth in the white house and there was dna, so all bets are off

 

[Magnus McGinty]

if his fans let it slide he'll be on the comedy circuit until eternity.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Not exactly snappy as headlines go...

7th word is pithy…

 

[Wilf]

Judges comments, not looking too good for HRH Nonce:

Later, Brettler said: “I don’t even understand how there could be any question as to whether ‘other potential defendants’ had a meaning. Clearly, Ms Giuffre intended to release a broad category of individuals including royalty, including businessmen.”

Brettler also said Epstein “would never want to have to be dragged into a lawsuit were she to sue Prince Andrew later”.

Kaplan responded: “We don’t have Mr Epstein here to say that’s in fact what his view was.”



The judge also said Epstein might have wanted to grant the broadest release possible, or might have intended to provide the narrowest release possible. He also questioned how enforceability could apply to other parties if they didn’t know about the agreement, which included a confidentiality provision.

“Arguably,” he said, “it would be that Epstein and Giuffre had an agreement between themselves that there was a release to other potential defendants, whatever that means, but they weren’t to know about it”.

Apparently speaking rhetorically, the judge added: “The only people who could enforce it were Epstein and Giuffre.”

 

[bemused]

Classy ... Jesus wept ... imagine arguing that victims of child sexual abuse shouldn't have access to justice based on how long ago they were abused, you probably can't because you're a human being with a soul.

 

[Athos]

A settlement for her is a win because as you say everyone will assume he's guilty and she avoid reliving her trauma. Andrew is only going to want to go to trial if he's confident he'll win, to do that he'd need something pretty astonishing to do that - he's pictured with his victim, a convicted sexual trafficker and groomer at a paedophiles house.

I think you underestimate how hard it will be for her to prove; it'll come down to her word against his.

And his defence will rip into her: her sexual history and drug use; the inconsistencies in her account; her own culpability in procuring girls for Epstein; portraying her as a liar after a payday, etc.

All the while portraying him as an upstanding person, a war hero, and an eligible bachelor who could have his pick of women without needing to procure girls.

A trial is an all-or-nothing roll of the dice for both of them; a settlement that eliminates the risk of the worst outcome for each of them might be something they both prefer.

 

[tim]

He's going to pay her off, we'll never know the number, he'll end up living in a castle chilling.

When do we get a vote for an elected head of state.

If he does end up in a castle it will be after his brother succeeds to the throne and it will be that extremely chilly one in Tower Hamlets. Those ravens love eyeballs.

 

[1927]

Enforcement isn't quite that simple; there's a number of conditions to be satisfied (I think I posted them some weeks ago. ETA: see below). But, even if enforceable, there's the issue of him increasingly appearing to have no assets; I think he's being sued re unpaid mortgage on the chalet. It might be a case of "settle, and Mummy will pay you; go to trial and you'll get nothing, even if you win."

I understand the mortgage and debt on chalet has now been settled and he is now trying to sell it.

 

[Wilf]

I'm sure if he ever gets a settlement of any kind against him, he'll be heading off to Saudi or some other regime that isn't that worried about accepting (rich) sex offenders.