Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[laptop]

There's something else: in much of the Caribbean, the age of consent is 16, not 18. IIRC Andrew used to holiday there a lot, so any sex may have, in fact, been legal.

Er... the lawsuit is filed in Florida.

Does Florida (or the US as a whole) have the same provision that British law now does: that anything that is a sexual offence here may be prosecuted here, wherever it was committed?

E2A: ALLEGEDly.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The cunt

Doesn't really matter, from now on I can just think of him as the ALLEGED paedophile.

And yes, the word ALLEGED will appear in sarcastic capital letters even when I'm only thinking it.

 

[laptop]

oh no

not stefan lotven

NOT Stefan Löfven

 

[SpookyFrank]

Er... the lawsuit is filed in Florida.

Does Florida (or the US as a whole) have the same provision that British law now does: that anything that is a sexual offence here may be prosecuted here, wherever it was committed?

I can't see the British government agreeing to extradite a prince to be honest, so it's probably a non-issue.

 

[agricola]

One does wonder whether Captain Bob's (edit: or at least his daughter's) involvement might make this link in with the investigation(s) over here; though of course this is just about the federal prosecutors agreeing a plea deal at this stage.

 

[SpookyFrank]

i see the denial is of any suggestion of impropriety, not of impropriety itself.

Note also the redundant phrase 'underage minors'. Anyone would think someone was typing that statement in a terrible hurry.

 

[brogdale]

I can't see the British government agreeing to extradite a prince to be honest, so it's probably a non-issue.

Future travel to the US could be an issue?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Future travel to the US?

We'll just have to send one of the other royals over there to take advantage of the harems of the American elite, sorry I mean promote British industry.

 

[brogdale]

Now the BBC's attempt at updating the story with "more details"...but still opening the piece with the denial...before the substance of the accusation.

Serious, concerned...and yet at the same time...innocent, benign face picture. Nice.

 

[pogofish]

Future travel to the US could be an issue?

Do Royals have passports like the rest of us yet? Last time I read anything (yonks ago) it was still a laissez-pass letter from the Maj herself?

 

[elbows]

Just been reading dodgy Daily Mail stuff from when a version of this story broke in 2011. A Spitting Image puppet seems to feature in the story. Really.

The Prince had been given a Spitting Image puppet of himself by Ghislaine, who was also present. Johanna was sitting on Andrew’s knee, and said Ghislaine made Virginia sit on his other knee.

Then, Johanna recalls, Ghislaine ‘put the puppet’s hand on Virginia’s breast, then Andrew put his hand on my breast’.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...aughter-Ghislaine-hired-girls-paedophile.html

 

[brogdale]

Do Royals have passports like the rest of us yet? Last time I read anything it was still a laissez-pass letter from the Maj herself?

Lizard-pass, shirley?

 

[brogdale]

Just been reading dodgy Daily Mail stuff from when a version of this story broke in 2011. A Spitting Image puppet seems to feature in the story. Really.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...aughter-Ghislaine-hired-girls-paedophile.html

'kinnel.

 

[Citizen66]

Which one is Prince Andrew again?

The one with financial ties to murky dictatorships. Who the press don't follow about as much.

 

[Quartz]

Just been reading dodgy Daily Mail stuff from when a version of this story broke in 2011. A Spitting Image puppet seems to feature in the story. Really.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...aughter-Ghislaine-hired-girls-paedophile.html

Wow.

 

[brogdale]

do you think a member of the royal family would hobnob with people with small 'private jets'?


if not consensual

exactly. The allegation includes the word "forced"...that's not 'just' an allegation of sex with a floridian minor, is it?

 

[DexterTCN]

The grauniad article is full of stuff. None of it prurient.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...rew-named-us-lawsuit-underage-sex-allegations

It would no doubt be quite easy for journos to check the places mentioned with the prince's travel details.

 

[DotCommunist]

I want to know who the PM named is as well. I know which one leaps first to mind.

 

[brogdale]

I want to know who the PM named is as well. I know which one leaps first to mind.

well...we know they're "well known" for a start...

 

[Citizen66]

I probably know... pause ...which one you mean.

 

[DotCommunist]

well...we know they're "well known" for a start...

narrows it down

 

[laptop]

I want to know who the PM named is as well. I know which one leaps first to mind.

The New York Daily News has a list from 2009.

The one I think you're thinking of isn't on it.

 

[hash tag]

The one with financial ties to murky dictatorships. Who the press don't follow about as much.

"Financial ties", nothing to do with selling guns and assorted armanents?

 

[Citizen66]

"Financial ties", nothing to do with selling guns and assorted armanents?

And back handers on the shit house he couldn't sell.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

The one with financial ties to murky dictatorships. Who the press don't follow about as much.

This is pretty funny in a fucked-up sort of way.

One senior former diplomat said : "The coverage has been a bit unfair. He is a twat, but [on the Saudi BAE bribery case] he's right in the wrong way. The Saudis would have ended counter-terrorism cooperation with us completely, and that is absolutely vital.

"But Andrew is an idiot and puts it crudely, and it was wrong to suggest the bribery was acceptable."

The former diplomat said the prince was "a net asset to Britain" adding: "Built in the price is the fact he does speak his mind, and he does have a short fuse. But he gets on with the Saudis, who like a prince."

Anti-corruption campaigners called on Andrew to resign as a special UK trade representative.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/nov/30/prince-andrew-wikileaks-cables

 

[agricola]

I want to know who the PM named is as well. I know which one leaps first to mind.

One of our PMs? Surely there is only one of those that noone would dare name.

 

[laptop]

One of our PMs?

Not the one mentioned by the New York Daily News.

But still capable of suing for damage to reputation in the UK if named here (even though that's arguably a net negative). So let's not.

 

[SpookyFrank]

well...we know they're "well known" for a start...

Most prime ministers are fairly well known.

 

[brogdale]

One of our PMs? Surely there is only one of those that noone would dare name.

Most prime ministers are fairly well known.

Ironic adjective for journos to use for an individual they won't name.

 

[ruffneck23]

lets hope it was 'miranda '