Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[newbie]

sort of. The DM is good at getting news that fits its agenda but ignores so much that conflicts with its agenda . I want journalists to start following the money- during the time this was going on the Grand Old Duke of York was the UKs Special Representative for International Trade and Investment. Being a prince opens doors, and he's been linked to arms deals and corruption worldwide, which is exactly what he was expected to do. Fine, if sick, that's what the poxy royals are for. But what was in all this for Epstein? Why was he spending 10 grand to supply his 'friend' with a well groomed young woman?

Offering access to a harem is one of the oldest and most obvious ways to buy influence. As a prince the godoy must have been trained from birth to be suspicious of anyone bearing such gifts, to question their motivation, to avoid the possibility of being manipulated or blackmailed, to act as a statesman. I want journalists to uncover what access and influence the godoy gave Epstein in return, and I'm not looking to the DM to provide that.

 

[bluescreen]

As for The Sun, only something that might bring down the House of Windsor...

sort of. The DM is good at getting news that fits its agenda but ignores so much that conflicts with its agenda . I want journalists to start following the money- during the time this was going on the Grand Old Duke of York was the UKs Special Representative for International Trade and Investment. Being a prince opens doors, and he's been linked to arms deals and corruption worldwide, which is exactly what he was expected to do. Fine, if sick, that's what the poxy royals are for. But what was in all this for Epstein? Why was he spending 10 grand to supply his 'friend' with a well groomed young woman?

Offering access to a harem is one of the oldest and most obvious ways to buy influence. As a prince the godoy must have been trained from birth to be suspicious of anyone bearing such gifts, to question their motivation, to avoid the possibility of being manipulated or blackmailed, to act as a statesman. I want journalists to uncover what access and influence the godoy gave Epstein in return, and I'm not looking to the DM to provide that.

Don't hold your breath.

 

[Citizen66]

If the allegations are being denied, aren't we on dodgy ground discussing this on the basis that they're true?

 

[danny la rouge]

As a prince the godoy must have been trained from birth to be suspicious of anyone bearing such gifts, to question their motivation, to avoid the possibility of being manipulated or blackmailed, to act as a statesman. I want journalists to uncover what access and influence the godoy gave Epstein in return, and I'm not looking to the DM to provide that.

Despite the risk of sounding like a high court judge, can I ask - what's a "Godoy"?

 

[newbie]

Grand Old Duke of York

 

[danny la rouge]

Grand Old Duke of York

Cheers. Of course! I was reading it as a word, due to the small case letters. (Intriguingly my phone gave it a capital G, so presumably it's also a place, surname or product well enough known in America to be in the software).

 

[Citizen66]

Waiting for Godot on Godoy.

 

[teqniq]

Trouble is he does turn up. like a bad penny.

 

[newbie]

Cheers. Of course! I was reading it as a word, due to the small case letters. (Intriguingly my phone gave it a capital G, so presumably it's also a place, surname or product well enough known in America to be in the software).

I don't like using the respectful term Prince Andrew at all but my failing to know anything about when to use capitals is just pure laziness

 

[nino_savatte]

Yep, I meant Finkelstein. If I remember right though, the specific issue was that he reckoned some zionist propaganda tract Dershowitz had written was not only a pack of lies, but a plagiarised pack of lies.

He plagiarised Joan Peters' book iirc.

 

[Pickman's model]

Grand Old Duke of York

he had 10,000 men

 

[Pickman's model]

Despite the risk of sounding like a high court judge, can I ask - what's a "Godoy"?

manuel godoy recently

 

[brogdale]

he had 10,000 men

And when they were up they were up

 

[Pickman's model]

And when they were up they were up

and when they were down they were down

 

[brogdale]

Tune: "A-Hunting We Will Go"

 

[Pickman's model]

Tune: "A-Hunting We Will Go"

the duke of york recently

 

[brogdale]

Jesus, the sick-fucker introduced his victim to his mother...

The ‘sex slave’ who was allegedly abused by the Duke of York was introduced to the Queen during a visit to London, it has been claimed.

As Prince Andrew flew home from a skiing holiday in Switzerland to prepare to face fresh allegations, Virginia Roberts’s father, Sky, made further claims about his daughter's connection to the Royal family.

He said that she had met the Queen and been "so excited" by the introduction.

Buckingham Palace has denied the claims. A spokesperson said: "There is nothing to suggest that this claim is true. We have no record of such a meeting."

Even by their recent standard, that's a spectacularly weak denial.

 

[danny la rouge]

I don't like using the respectful term Prince Andrew at all

Fair enough. Although, I don't think of it as a respected term, meaning, as it does, "hereditary sponger and parasite". Or "descendant of Robber Barons, who owes his standing to his ancestors' malfeasance".

It escapes from my lips like a curse, like the plosive attack of "cunt" or "cock". It rings with disdain, distaste and disapproval, like stepped in shit or a vomit-encrusted pillow in the morning. It ranks with "villain", "granny mugger", "mobster"; with "rapist", "drug pusher", with "wife beater". It is vile, debased, and debauched. It is the rank of a pilliedachus, a prancing, preening, vacuous fool. It is the rank of betrayal, cowardice and greed.

 

[brogdale]

Said quickly Nonce Andrew sounds about right.

 

[bluescreen]

Godoy is a Plantagenet prince.

Fair enough. Although, I don't think of it as a respected term, meaning, as it does, "hereditary sponger and parasite". Or "descendant of Robber Barons, who owes his standing to his ancestors' malfeasance".

It escapes from my lips like a curse, like the plosive attack of "cunt" or "cock". It rings with disdain, distaste and disapproval, like stepped in shit or a vomit-encrusted pillow in the morning. It ranks with "villain", "granny mugger", "mobster"; with "rapist", "drug pusher", with "wife beater". It is vile, debased, and debauched. It is the rank of a pilliedachus, a prancing, preening, vacuous fool. It is the rank of betrayal, cowardice and greed.

Tell us what you really think, Danny.

 

[Pickman's model]

prince andrew is the modern-day gilles de rais

 

[newbie]

Dear Mr rouge,
your application for the position of royal correspondent at the BBC is noted.

 

[teqniq]

Duke of York strenuously denies he had ten thousand men

 

[hot air baboon]

I don't like using the respectful term Prince Andrew at all

Said quickly Nonce Andrew sounds about right.

...Ponce Andrew seems a fair compromise but one supposes Eptein is the ponce in this particular scenario....

 

[SpookyFrank]

We have no record of this happening. We have no record of having burned the records. We have no record of having burned the record of the time we burned all the records.

 

[Sprocket.]

This sun of York capers nimbly in a lady's chamber!

 

[goldenecitrone]

Andrew of York (sex) slave battle in vain.

 

[Pickman's model]

Andrew of York (sex) slave battle in vain.

i would have thought that ever since the lancastrians won the wars of the roses being duke of york was an equivocal position.

 

[Citizen66]

If she met the Queen unofficially, as in a friend of her son, why on earth would there be a record of it? Do they keep records on when the Queen goes for a turd too?

 

[SpookyFrank]

If the allegations are being denied, aren't we on dodgy ground discussing this on the basis that they're true?

The fact of their denial has little impact on the credibility of the allegations. Particularly considering some of the known liars and scumbags who are doing the denying. We can't really go around saying 'Andrew is a nonce' but we can say that there are questions here that should be answered with something a little bit more solid than 'I never done it', even if they're just questions about what a taxpayer-bankrolled individual was doing associating with a character like Epstein in the first place.