Prince Andrew, Duke of York, named in underage 'sex slave' lawsuit

[krtek a houby]

Not really for you (or me, TBH) to say though.

It would/will be up to those living in Scotland to decide.

That's what the occupiers always say.

 

[andysays]

That's what the occupiers always say.

Who are you calling an occupier?

In the first place, the idea that Scotland is currently "occupied" by England or anyone else is a bit ridiculous.

And in case you're suggesting that I personally am in some way responsible for this "occupation", I'll also point out that my family is from Scotland, as I'm sure I've mentioned a few times on Urban.

But as I'm not currently resident in Scotland, I recognise that it's not for me to determine either the question of independence or that of whether a hypothetical independent Scotland changes from a monarchy to a republic (I have my opinions, which I'm sure aren't difficult to guess from my previous posts on the subject, but that's something different).

So for you, an Irish citizen currently resident in Japan and with zero connection to Scotland as far as I'm aware, to jump in and insist that it's when, not if, seems a bit presumptuous to me, and your subsequent response suggests you really don't know what you're on about.

Anyway, derail over. Back to the sweaty nonce...

 

[gosub]

That's what the occupiers always say.

I know Scotland was heavily involved with the British Empire but don't think they unilateral decision making powers over all of it.

 

[krtek a houby]

Who are you calling an occupier?

In the first place, the idea that Scotland is currently "occupied" by England or anyone else is a bit ridiculous.

And in case you're suggesting that I personally am in some way responsible for this "occupation", I'll also point out that my family is from Scotland, as I'm sure I've mentioned a few times on Urban.

But as I'm not currently resident in Scotland, I recognise that it's not for me to determine either the question of independence or that of whether a hypothetical independent Scotland changes from a monarchy to a republic (I have my opinions, which I'm sure aren't difficult to guess from my previous posts on the subject, but that's something different).

So for you, an Irish citizen currently resident in Japan and with zero connection to Scotland as far as I'm aware, to jump in and insist that it's when, not if, seems a bit presumptuous to me, and your subsequent response suggests you really don't know what you're on about.

Anyway, derail over. Back to the sweaty nonce...

You got your exit from the EU.

Despite not all residents of the UK voting for it.

Only fair that Scotland and the 6 counties get their freedom.

Not sure what a Republican's geographic location has to do with the cause, though.

 

[andysays]

You got your exit from the EU.

Despite not all residents of the UK voting for it.

Only fair that Scotland and the 6 counties get their freedom.

Not sure what a Republican's geographic location has to do with the cause, though.

Are you suggesting that my support for Brexit makes me an "occupier"?

Or are you just posting nonsense for the sake of it now?

 

[krtek a houby]

Are you suggesting that my support for Brexit makes me an "occupier"?

Or are you just posting nonsense for the sake of it now?

Nah, you just don't get to dictate to others wanting an exit from the hideous UK.

Their current whereabouts are unimportant, tbf.

What matters is that those who oppose the nations who wish for independence have always been told that it's not up to them/their economy will suffer/ they will regret it etc etc.

It's the language of the occupiers. No offense to you, as don't know your history and connections... far as aware...

 

[andysays]

Nah, you just don't get to dictate to others wanting an exit from the hideous UK.

Their current whereabouts are unimportant, tbf.

What matters is that those who oppose the nations who wish for independence have always been told that it's not up to them/their economy will suffer/ they will regret it etc etc.

It's the language of the occupiers. No offense to you, as don't know your history and connections... far as aware...

So you don't know my position on independence for Scotland (I'm actually in favour, if a majority in Scotland want it), yet you assume because I'm in favour of Brexit, I must necessarily want to "dictate to others wanting an exit from the hideous UK".

You silly sausage.

And people's current whereabouts are important. It would be unreasonable for me to argue that my Scottish parentage entitles me to the same say in determining Scotland's future than anyone actually resident there, but for you with zero Scottish connection, past or present, to come on like this is frankly ridiculous.

And now I really am leaving this nonsense derail.

 

[krtek a houby]

So you don't know my position on independence for Scotland (I'm actually in favour, if a majority in Scotland want it), yet you assume because I'm in favour of Brexit, I must necessarily want to "dictate to others wanting an exit from the hideous UK".

You silly sausage.

Sorry, don't subscribe to your blog.

You assume that this self has no connection to Scotland and because of my location, for some reason, shouldn't have a say?

There's Irish and Scottish republicans all over the world.

They have a right to decide their homelands future as well.

 

[krtek a houby]

And people's current whereabouts are important. It would be unreasonable for me to argue that my Scottish parentage entitles me to the same say in determining Scotland's future than anyone actually resident there, but for you with zero Scottish connection, past or present, to come on like this is frankly ridiculous.

And now I really am leaving this nonsense derail.

Sure, no sweat

 

[emanymton]

Sure, no sweat

Finally bringing it back to the thread topic.

 

[brogdale]

Papers served according to victims's lawyers:

 

[TopCat]

At last.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I guess we don't actually have that daft American thing where you have to physically put the court papers into a person's hand after all, and that posting them to someone's primary residence is just fine.

 

[brogdale]

I guess we don't actually have that daft American thing where you have to physically put the court papers into a person's hand after all, and that posting them to someone's primary residence is just fine.

Kind of hoping that Windsor denies they've been served properly; that would really pile on the shame.
Wonder if the copper accepting the papers will be getting an promotion soon?

 

[eatmorecheese]

I thought he was in Balmoral, sweating in the glens. I'm sure his people will forward the paperwork. Ho ho.

 

[1927]

I thought he was in Balmoral, sweating in the glens. I'm sure his people will forward the paperwork. Ho ho.

I think they were served some time ago!

 

[Orang Utan]

what does it mean though? it’s not going to make him get on a plane to the US, is it?

 

[equationgirl]

I guess we don't actually have that daft American thing where you have to physically put the court papers into a person's hand after all, and that posting them to someone's primary residence is just fine.

BBC article claims a process server went to Windsor and gave the papers to a police officer there after talking to lawyers.

I thought the papers had to be physically given to the actual person too. A judge in the US will apparently now decide if the papers have been served in reality.

 

[brogdale]

BBC article claims a process server went to Windsor and gave the papers to a police officer there after talking to lawyers.

I thought the papers had to be physically given to the actual person too. A judge in the US will apparently now decide if the papers have been served in reality.

Sounds like a lawyers dream...just imagine the arguments that could rage around the notion of serving papers to an individual protected by the security state.

 

[equationgirl]

Sounds like a lawyers dream...just imagine the arguments that could rage around the notion of serving papers to an individual protected by the security state.

It's going to be argumentastic for the next few years. His side will undoubtedly argue the papers were not served, as the police officer was not empowered to accept them on behalf of Prince Andrew, whilst her side will argue they weren't allowed to serve them correctly and were effectively obstructed from doing so.

 

[Cerv]

what does it mean though? it’s not going to make him get on a plane to the US, is it?

if papers have been served and he doesn't go to court, then a default judgement against him in the plaintiff's favour will be recorded.

so wait and see now if he decides it'd be better to accept the case is happening and go make a defence, or try his luck on the court not accepting that the paperwork was served.

 

[not-bono-ever]

is this a civil or criminal case then ? if it civil in a US court, HRH might may a hefty slab of cash to lay out.

if found against him obvs.

 

[Cerv]

is this a civil or criminal case then ? if it civil in a US court, HRH might may a hefty slab of cash to lay out.

if found against him obvs.

it's civil

 

[not-bono-ever]

it's civil

he had better declare bankruptcy then.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I guess we don't actually have that daft American thing where you have to physically put the court papers into a person's hand after all, and that posting them to someone's primary residence is just fine.

You do, but sort of don't, at least, not always.

PART 6 – SERVICE OF DOCUMENTS – Civil Procedure Rules

www.justice.gov.uk

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Sounds like a lawyers dream...just imagine the arguments that could rage around the notion of serving papers to an individual protected by the security state.

Seems this is the way they’re going. You’d have thought with all their dough they could afford advisors that have a fucking scoobie, really.

 

[Badgers]

Top article on the BBC news?

 

[Aladdin]

Top article on the BBC news?

Makes the whole "courtier complains about HaM" pale in significance.

Hope the fecker gets jail but I somehow doubt it.

 

[Spymaster]

Makes the whole "courtier complains about HaM" pale in significance.

Hope the fecker gets jail but I somehow doubt it.

He can’t be jailed. It’s a civil action.

 

[Cerv]

he had better declare bankruptcy then.

could do an OJ and move to Florida.

He can’t be jailed. It’s a civil action.

maybe if we're lucky he'll pull a contempt of court by ignoring the judgement, then somehow find himself in the US later.