Pop and Rock Stars... and underage girls

[Pickman's model]

8den said if anyone could find another girl he would flip his switch and condemn Bowie. Wonder how he will wriggle out of fulfilling on that public commitment?

quite easily i suspect

 

[8den]

Ha..you edited that to " girls " after I pulled you up on it.

It's good you accept they weren't " women now ". That's progress . I feel like a counsellor or something .

I didn't edit it. They would be girls at the time, if they came forward now, they'd be women. I do realise that a working knowledge of grammatical tense isn't a requirement for a job as Kelvin Mc Kenzie's or Rebecca Brooks' flunky, but its tremendously helpful for everyone else to understand what you are trying to say.

Now please continue I think you were at the frothing at the mouth hysterical screaming stage of the discussion...

 

[Casually Red]

This was not a one off, 3 other girls reflect here, and a magazine dedicated to the whole culture of it:
Diamonds From The Mine: The New Generation of Groupies

That entire scene was organised sexual exploitation of children . And sadly Bowie was smack in the middle of it . Those children wanted to hangout with rock stars. And sadly sex, underage sex with adults, was the price they had to pay for it . Let's face it they were kids and they had nothing else to offer to be in that company .

 

[8den]

quite easily i suspect

So we're at the stage that we are speculating as to how I'd react to a hypothetical?

 

[belboid]

This was not a one off, 3 other girls reflect here, and a magazine dedicated to the whole culture of it:
Diamonds From The Mine: The New Generation of Groupies

she wasn't the only girl on the 'scene', but she was the only one definitively fucked by Bowie (which was 8den's point). Queenie Glam was, according to that, 'linked with' him, but that just means they were all part of that crowd. Maybe he fucked her too, but there doesn't seem to be anything more about him doing so (and Queenie herself seems to managed to avoid being on the internet too much, so its hard to know much more about her)

 

[LiamO]

(and I add if that more women come forward and talk about how Bowie liked to ply underage girls with drugs and have sex with them, I will of course condemn him), but going on this one account it is, very conceivable that on this night he showed VERY poor judgment and knowingly or unknowingly had sex with an underage girl.

My prediction is he will say something along the lines of " I said 'liked to ply underage girls with drugs and have sex with them'. You have shown that he shagged another one, having sought her out and knowing (as everyone did) that she was underage - but show me the evidence he plied this latest one with drugs"

 

[LiamO]

she wasn't the only girl on the 'scene', but she was the only one definitively fucked by Bowie (which was 8den's point).

nope that link above takes you straight to Sable Starr's account

anyone know how to c&p or screenshot from that page?

e2a

remembers Starr fondly:

 

[Pickman's model]

So we're at the stage that we are speculating as to how I'd react to a hypothetical?

i see you were lying about having me on ignore.

 

[8den]

i see you were lying about having me on ignore.

No deary back on tapatalk

 

[8den]

My prediction is he will say something along the lines of " I said 'liked to ply underage girls with drugs and have sex with them'. You have shown that he shagged another one, having sought her out and knowing (as everyone did) that she was underage - but show me the evidence he plied this latest one with drugs"

Wow. I see this thread has gone into the realms of speculative fiction...

 

[Pickman's model]

No deary back on tapatalk

you've always proved more dreary than deary

 

[LiamO]

Wow. I see this thread has gone into the realms of speculative fiction...

So respond.

remembers Starr fondly:

Now we have two. You asked for another one. You have it. respond

 

[Lucy Fur]

Wow. I see this thread has gone into the realms of speculative fiction...

Not mine, so why not address the points raised there.

 

[Pickman's model]

So respond.

Now we have two. You asked for another one. You have it. respond

come in 8den your time is up

 

[LiamO]

I would anticipate radio silence. Then an explosion/diversion/attempted derail

 

[emanymton]

nope that link above takes you straight to Sable Starr's account

anyone know how to c&p or screenshot from that page?

If your are on a computer rather than a phone just press 'print screen' and you should be able to past it into a post.

I've done on my phone but am struggling to upload it.

 

[DotCommunist]

I remember that - it seemed fucked up when I read it 20 odd years ago. She gets taken in by a biker gang at one point.

I now also recall a subplot in HS Thompsons Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas where his attorney picks up an underage girl and gives her acid

 

[belboid]

nope that link above takes you straight to Sable Starr's account

anyone know how to c&p or screenshot from that page?

okay, I've read that bit too now. While there is always the possibility of her exaggerating her involvement in order to sell books, it does read all too plausibly. Clearly, he (Bowie) wasn't a peripheral figure.

 

[8den]

This was not a one off, 3 other girls reflect here, and a magazine dedicated to the whole culture of it:
Diamonds From The Mine: The New Generation of Groupies

I'm sorry but maybe I'm missing something but only one girl aside from Lori makes any reference to Bowie

 

[LiamO]

okay, I've read that bit too now. While there is always the possibility of her exaggerating her involvement in order to sell books, it does read all too plausibly. Clearly, he (Bowie) wasn't a peripheral figure.

Wonder how 8den feels now he realises his Castle was made of sand... and the tide has come in around it.

remembers Starr fondly:

 

[LiamO]

I'm sorry but maybe I'm missing something but only one girl aside from Lori makes any reference to Bowie

8den. the gift that keeps on giving

remembers Starr fondly:

okay, I've read that bit too now. While there is always the possibility of her exaggerating her involvement in order to sell books, it does read all too plausibly. Clearly, he (Bowie) wasn't a peripheral figure.

 

[LiamO]

remembers Starr fondly:

 

[Lucy Fur]

I'm sorry but maybe I'm missing something but only one girl aside from Lori makes any reference to Bowie

Apparently Queenie Glam is also linked, but what I don't understand, is why the diferrence between one or two, or indeed more is important (to you)?

 

[LiamO]

.

 

[LiamO]

I would anticipate radio silence. Then an explosion/diversion/attempted derail

I'm sorry but maybe I'm missing something but only one girl aside from Lori makes any reference to Bowie

That's the diversion attempt done. One down, two to go.

 

[belboid]

Apparently Queenie Glam is also linked, but what I don't understand, is why the diferrence between one or two, or indeed more is important (to you)?

well, as I said, 'linked' means absolutely nothing more than 'seen in the same room as.'

The Sable Starr book is the relevant bit

 

[8den]

Apparently Queenie Glam is also linked, but what I don't understand, is why the diferrence between one or two, or indeed more is important (to you)?

Queenie Glam is the one I'm referring to.

It matters as to whether Maddox was a singularly isolated regrettable incident or part of a wider pattern which I think would be more serious.

But I suspect for 3 of Urbans most pernicious and vicious bullies this thread stopped being about Bowie several pages ago.

 

[Casually Red]

Hurry up 8den, I've to go to work shortly and the suspense is killing me

Bet he's sitting there like Blackadder coming up with some mental and linguistic contortion .

" boos up " 8den remember that one ?

Try that path . It might just work .

 

[Casually Red]

Queenie Glam is the one I'm referring to.

It matters as to whether Maddox was a singularly isolated regrettable incident or part of a wider pattern which I think would be more serious.

But I suspect for 3 of Urbans most pernicious and vicious bullies this thread stopped being about Bowie several pages ago.

You're being bullied ?

Hahahahhahhaahhaahahhah


It's the jer manoeuvre !!!

Fucking brilliant

 

[8den]

That's the diversion attempt done. One down, two to go.

It's not a diversion it's a request for clarification.

A diversion would be expressing disgust and outrage that you let your mate a fucking para continue his pursuit of underage girls.