Political polling

[DotCommunist]

no matter how often you state your case, you are still reduced to being a thick racist. I've been suprised at how many take that line. Perhaps I can only read one big word written on the wall beggining with G and ending in E

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

no matter how often you state your case, you are still reduced to being a thick racist. I've been suprised at how many take that line. Perhaps I can only read one big word written on the wall beggining with G and ending in E

Typical brexiteer calling for genocide.

 

[Sherman Tank]

Yes, solely to cunt you off.

Bit of a childish reason? I am not calling anyone racist for voting for Brexit, just politically illiterate. Which you are unless you really wanted visas, companies up and leaving and taking jobs with them, tarrifs, racist attacks to rise, and everything else that the Remain camp warned of prior to the vote? Nothing else was going to happen.

 

[Sherman Tank]

no matter how often you state your case, you are still reduced to being a thick racist. I've been suprised at how many take that line. Perhaps I can only read one big word written on the wall beggining with G and ending in E

You are clearly quite thick as a brief search of your posts reveals, but who is calling anyone racist?

 

[Santino]

Bit of a childish reason? I am not calling anyone racist for voting for Brexit, just politically illiterate. Which you are unless you really wanted visas, companies up and leaving and taking jobs with them, tarrifs, racist attacks to rise, and everything else that the Remain camp warned of prior to the vote? Nothing else was going to happen.

Did you vote Remain because you wanted refugees drowning in the Mediterranean and soaring suidice rates in Greece?

 

[butchersapron]

You are clearly quite thick as a brief search of your posts reveals, but who is calling anyone racist?

You of all people shouldn't be talking about searching past posts and calling people political illiterates at the same time. Dangerous game.

 

[Sherman Tank]

I am not sure online forums are places of danger except for children.

 

[ferrelhadley]

Couple of polls have narrowed a touch since the May "bounce". Perhaps just froth off the top. Now, those who favour social democracy have to focus very fucking hard on how to move those numbers.

Edited to add the recent trends. Mostly Tories gaining from the kippers rather than much movement to or from Labour.

 

[JHE]

Couple of polls have narrowed a touch since the May "bounce". Perhaps just froth off the top. Now, those who favour social democracy have to focus very fucking hard on how to move those numbers.

Edited to add the recent trends. Mostly Tories gaining from the kippers rather than much movement to or from Labour.

Clearly it's bad to be so far behind the Tories and, for one of the main parties, 30% is not good, but in a way it's impressive that Labour isn't doing worse. The MPs have been slagging off and trying to get rid of the leader. We are told Corbyn's both useless and extreme. The general opinion in the media is that Corbyn cannot be Prime Minister. Most people seem to agree. Voters generally punish divided parties and I cannot remember any greater divisions than those in Labour over the past year. Yet in the face of all of that a stubborn 30% say they'd vote Labour, the same %age as at the last general election.

Maybe if they got their act together... but, no, I don't suppose they will...

 

[ferrelhadley]

Conference and the leadership result does not seem to have helped or harmed. You can always see what you want too see in polling (and I know that includes me).



Really interesting pair of Brexit polls


And yet May gets a glowing report



A guess? The people blame Cameron and the Brexiters for not having a plan and May is the "safe pair of hands". That will change, but for the moment she is free from the dogs breakfast that is Brexit.

Rather be a luck politician than a good one and all that.

 

[SqueakyBumTime]

Rather be a luck politician than a good one and all that.

In politics as in life. I totally agree.

 

[DownwardDog]

Today's YouGov:-

CON 29% (31), LAB 42% (40), LD 11% (12), UKIP 12% (12); Govt app -40

Fieldwork 4th & 5th March.

Mods, might it be a good idea to sticky a poll thread for the run in to 2015? Just a thought.

I wonder if Milliband, E. is bitter or amused.

 

[J Ed]

I wonder if Milliband, E. is bitter or amused.

Well I don't know the answer to that but one thing he isn't is Prime Minister

 

[DownwardDog]

Guardian/ICM: Con 43% (+2) Lab 26% (-2) UKIP 11% (-2) LD 8% (-1) Grn 6% (+2)

The Clergyman's Daughter must be getting tempted to engineer the circumstances for an early GE.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

early GE.

Why do people keep saying this nonsense? Over and over.

 

[brogdale]

Why do people keep saying this nonsense? Over and over.

The provisions of the FTPA are not well understood.

 

[bemused]

I wonder what those numbers look like if you take out Scotland?

 

[kebabking]

Ipsos MORI...

Ipsos MORI | Poll | Sharp fall in economic optimism over last month

Tory 47%, Labour 29%, UKIP 6%.

 

[bemused]

I'd like to pay tribute to Tim Farron, under his leadership the LibDems have returned to their rightful place as the third most popular political party - I bet there will be an amazing party around his gaff tonight.

 

[DownwardDog]

Ipsos MORI...

Ipsos MORI | Poll | Sharp fall in economic optimism over last month

Tory 47%, Labour 29%, UKIP 6%.

Ipsos are going to find themselves candidates for nationalisation if they don't watch their step.

 

[J Ed]

I'd like to pay tribute to Tim Farron, under his leadership the LibDems have returned to their rightful place as the third most popular political party - I bet there will be an amazing party around his gaff tonight.

yes, some sort of sex party where after they cum they all apologise

 

[kebabking]

YouGov | Voting Intention: Conservatives 41%, Labour 28%

Tory 41, Lab 28, LD 9, UKIP 12,

Nov 24th, yougov.

ICM Unlimited | Polling Archive

Tory 44, Lab 28, LD 7, Gn 4, UKIP 12.

ICM, 29th November.

the breakdowns are, as ever, interesting. ICM have the Tories ahead in every single socio-economic group, and in every demographic except the 18-24's.

 

[ska invita]

Why do people keep saying this nonsense? Over and over.

i know a couple of people who have connections up in the labour party and supposedly theres a lot of talk at westminster over the last month about a spring election - and its source is tory mps. we've been through why its not possible etc, but nonetheless that seems to be real gossip. who knows. maybe the tories are spreading rumours to fuck with labour mps heads

 

[kebabking]

...maybe the tories are spreading rumours to fuck with labour mps heads

the Tory MP's are probably talking about it because they'd like it to be true, secondly because seeing the reaction on a Labour MP's face when you say the word 'election' is funny, and thirdly because if Labour goes into election mode it will spend money hand over fist, and the PLP will have to decide whether to stand with Corbyn in the plumetting Lift of Doom, or fight him and learn what the electorate think of split parties..

the fourth reason is that, despite the hurdles and pitfalls, it is infact possible for a government to bring about the conditions that the FTPA allows a GE to be held. and actually, despite the Tories massive poll lead, they may need to hold a GE as their government is incapable of getting its legislation through.

 

[brogdale]

A straw in the wind/sign of things to come as the electorate increasingly sense the betrayal of their will?

 

[kebabking]

A straw in the wind/sign of things to come as the electorate increasingly sense the betrayal of their will?

Unlikely to be that specifically, given that Labour aren't exactly mirroring the apparent public view on immigration - much more likely to be a reaction to the government still being all over the place on Brexit and Corbyn having a decent go at the government over Adult Social Care. He is improving at PMQ's while May isn't - and yes, it is important, its the only time normal people see them go head to head, and just before bedtime so it sticks in the mind.

The Tories are looking less in control and Corbyn is looking much less like a disinterested and slightly senile old hippy/geography teacher - I'm not remotely surprised that Labour are picking up voting intentions. Whether that translates to 'X's in the ballot cubicle is another issue...

 

[brogdale]

YG's latest Brexit tracker polling (by stated, current GE vote intent):-



Smithson sees this position for May as vulnerability to LD/UKIP 'pincer' vote loss.

 

[kabbes]

3% of UKIP voters didn't want the UK to be independent. Some people really will just vote for anything.

Also, at least 12% of Lib Dem voters literally still have no idea what they party they are voting for actually stands for.

 

[brogdale]

3% of UKIP voters didn't want the UK to be independent. Some people really will just vote for anything.

Also, at least 12% of Lib Dem voters literally still have no idea what they party they are voting for actually stands for.

You may be right, but tbf people can change their minds in the light of subsequent events (non-events). Would be very surprising to see complete 100% convergence of these numbers.

 

[kabbes]

You may be right, but tbf people can change their minds in the light of subsequent events (non-events). Would be very surprising to see complete 100% convergence of these numbers.

It's voting intention though, isn't it? Not historic voting. So 3% of people that intend to vote for UKIP don't think it's a good idea for the UK to leave the EU.