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My nightmare is the SNP holding the balance. Believe me, the people of England wouldn't like it either.

"The people of England"? What, all of them? Surely a good number of the, (say 34%), of the electorate voting for a Labour government would welcome SNP support (confidence and supply) if it was necessary to effect such an outcome?
 
a lab-snp combo would be def preferable than one involving the lib dems the eyes of most lab and snp voters
 
Tonight's you gov poll -

CON 33%, LAB 34%, LD 6%, UKIP 15%, GRN 7%

As butchers posted earlier - both tory and lab are gradually increasing their overall vote share, but - looking at all the polls and ignoring the daft ICM one - labour have a slight lead.
 
Today's TNS BMRB poll...

London – 18 February – A new poll by TNS UK reveals that Labour is now the most trusted party in three key policy areas: investing more in healthcare, reducing unemployment and improving education. The Conservatives are the most trusted party on generating economic growth.
  • Labour most trusted on healthcare, education and reducing unemployment
  • All three main party leaders have negative approval scores
  • Voting intention shows:-
LAB 35% (+2), CON 28% (+1), UKIP 18% (0), LIB DEM 6% (0), GREEN7% (-1), OTHER 5% (-3)
 
Anthony Wells of YouGov
Sound advice; and now Smithson has offered this interesting inside take on the ICM polling at the time of this "outlier"...
With much of the current GE15 narrative being linked to ICM’s 4% lead poll from Monday it is interesting to note that this was not the only survey being carried out by the firm at the weekend.

On Sunday, as I have reported, I was polled by ICM. The call was initiated from the firm’s big political calling centre in the Bromham Road in Bedford which is, incidentally, only about a mile from where I live. I know that because I asked the interviewer. Recalling the detail of the interview it does not match the Guardian poll published on Monday night. Having gone through the dataset from that survey it is clear that this wasn’t the series of questions that I answered.

Unusually for a political poll the main voting intention question was not put first. Instead the initial part of the survey points asked me to give ratings on a scale of zero to 100 my views of the main political parties and later their leaders.

Interestingly when it came to the voting question the prompt included a full range of parties including the BNP and the Greens as well as the normal big 4. It was as though that one of the objectives of the poll to specifically work out levels of support the parties that are usually classified as “others”.

There was questioning on the issues that I considered to be most important asking me to name two.

So who could have carried out this survey? My guess is that it possibly was the Conservative party itself. On reflection the poll appeared to have been designed to test how the party race was getting on and how effectively the blue team’s messages were getting across at this stage in the campaign.

Phone polls like this one don’t come cheaply. They’re not the sort of thing that a party or organisation that’s strapped for resources can be commissioning. My feeling is that it must have been linked to the Conservative machine.


  1. If I am right then the person who knows better than anybody whether the ICM Guardian poll was an outlier or not is Lynton Crosby.
Meanwhile we know from the other polls that were carried out at the same time and later that there has yet to be corroboration for the CON surge that ICM found.
 
Having questions on political issues before questioning who someone would vote for won't give a fair result, it'll prompt a response based partly on what issues are raised. Best methodology would be to ask about voting choice first, unless of course you wanted to work out the effectiveness of certain prompt/issues on voter's decisions - then refine a campaign to make use of this.
 
"The people of England"? What, all of them? Surely a good number of the, (say 34%), of the electorate voting for a Labour government would welcome SNP support (confidence and supply) if it was necessary to effect such an outcome?

They would not like the price.
 
To be read the same way as the guardian one i suggest.
Pretty much, but not entirely, according to Anthony.
He has the former as a sample blip, and the latter due to methodological bias....

Most have sensibly enough seen it as the just the other side of the coin to the ICM poll earlier this week showing a solid Tory lead – two outliers in opposite directions. However, it is worth looking at the different reasons why these two polls went against the trend.
 
Latest Scots Westminster Survation/Record voting intention:-

SNP 45-1 LAB 28+2 CON 15+1 LD 5-2

 
Interesting Holyrood voting intention poll too which shows a 31 point Nat lead over Labour and Greens in a quite respectable third place.

http://www.betternation.org/2015/02/latest-holyrood-poll/

That Green number is remarkable and interesting. Please put me straight if I'm reading this wrong, but that (unprecedented?) leakage to the Greens looks like disaffection with ScotLab is more deep-seated than even the Lab->SNP, Westminster numbers might suggest?
 
That Green number is remarkable and interesting. Please put me straight if I'm reading this wrong, but that (unprecedented?) leakage to the Greens looks like disaffection with ScotLab is more deep-seated than even the Lab->SNP, Westminster numbers might suggest?
No, I don't think you're wrong.
 
That Green number is remarkable and interesting. Please put me straight if I'm reading this wrong, but that (unprecedented?) leakage to the Greens looks like disaffection with ScotLab is more deep-seated than even the Lab->SNP, Westminster numbers might suggest?
I think that's right. I think voters know that the Greens stand a better chance in Holyrood than Westminster, and I think also (what you seem to be suggesting) that the SNP ratings are more anti Labour than pro SNP.
 
Just get it down: the tipping point that gives Labour more seats than SNP happens when SNP still has a 5-8 point lead over Labour.

That said, it's taken them several months to knock even 5 points off the SNP's lead.
Yep, Smithson's posting Curtice's handy visual again this morning...



The potential seat change effected by >1% of the UK electorate is remarkable.
 
There's some decent analysis of the survation figures in the Daily Racist Homophobe:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-daily-record-poll-shows-5187551
Anthony's take on the Survation poll...
Compared to Survation’s other post-referendum polls it suggests a slight narrowing in the SNP lead (their previous three polls had SNP leads of 22, 24 and 20 points) Looking across Scottish polls from other companies though there’s no obvious consensus on whether the lead is narrowing or not… and even if it is narrowing a bit, a seventeen point lead is still firmly in landslide territory.
 
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