When the alternative is a majority Tory government delivering economic ruination and acrimonious national disintegration?
living in absurd times doesn't mean all absurd things are equally feasible: the BP standing down in tory seats was a moved forced on Farage by internal dissent within the party, which is mostly made up of ex-tories who's commitment is to Brexit, not Farage. There is no such pressure within the Lib Dems, and a large part of their vote comes not from Labour leaning liberals, but from liberal leaning tories.
This is absolute bollocks. Whether we are in or out of the EU is not that important. What matters in either case is all about what the principles are of the government in power. There’s no point being in the EU with a deeply neoliberal set of MPs. Being in the EU didn’t stop austerity or the reduction of corporation tax. Concentrating on Brexit is to concentrate on the mechanism of delivery rather than the thing you’re actually trying to deliver.
No.
Strictly speaking, the crucial thing isn't E.U. membership, but membership of the EEA: but since the Tories not only propose leaving the single market alongside the E.U., but reject level-playing-field proposals on any trade deal, as things stand, it's a distinction workout a difference.
And thus you completely fail to engage with the point.
GPWM
They have (that interview was over Lib Dem support for a referendum on the Brexit deal), but I'm accepting, arguendo, that they're lying to make the point: in a seat where Lab have zero chance of winning, better a Lib Dem than a Tory.
You’re right. No more from me on it.
Which point? The E.U.'s failure to stop austerity somehow making Brexit an economic side issue? It was never going to, since contrary to the paranoia of the worst leavers, a pan-European trade bloc doesn't dictate domestic policy, especially when the member state's outwith the Eurozone. What a "hard Brexit" does do is trigger an economic crisis that'll set the conditions to turbocharge austerity, alongside stripping away those E.U. employment rights that successive British governments spent so long fighting.
It followed directly from the issue of whether polling makes electoral pacts desirable, but if people want to relocate the points to those threads, by all means.
Bizarrely, the odds on Betfair atm for a Con/LD coalition are 40/1. Astonishingly good value I would say, particularly if laid alongside some other hedging bets.
Nothing better than getting your rival manger sacked. Ball is still in your court - if you act now.that reminds me, its the Merseyside derby soon
He's not getting out of christmas alive - your next five games are ridiculous. Anyway, back to polling....
I dunno. If there is a hung parliament but tories plus lds gives a clear majority, we're exactly where we were in 2010, parliamentary maths-wise. What was the lds' biggest 'idea' in that election? Scrapping uni tuition fees. What did they do? Agree to triple them. The rationale, remember, from Clegg, was that they had a democratic 'duty' (I believe he used that word) to form a govt with the tories because the tories were the biggest party.
Trying to motivate the faithful? Especially as a number of the Numerical Weather models are predicting, albeit at the weakest end of their range, a snowy 12th December.
Even supposing that Lib Dem MPs for some reason went along with this supreme act of political suicide -- in the full knowledge that it'd destroy their careers and party for good -- their internal structures make it as likely as the SNP inviting America to bring back nuclear missiles to the U.K. Lib Dem members must sign-off on any coalition: they foolishly did so in 2010; they're not going to wave through Brexit in 2019 or '20.
Funny thing, politics. You get to commit suicide again and again.
You're like a lamb.
