Political polling
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I'm not rejoicing at anything, just correcting a mistake.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
What a fucking mess - LOL.
worth noting that Yougov are polling quite different numbers to most the other companies - but as they poll more regularly they tend to be the one people pay attention to.
Everyone else has Labour in the lead, 1-4%
Latest voting intentions
Everyone else has Labour in the lead, 1-4%
Latest voting intentions
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
Corbyn now has the worst polled net satisfaction with an opposition leader since polling for it began in 1980
Out polled by Michael fucking Howard.
Humberto
Well-Known Member
Too bad we can't just have more of the same as we hurtle towards fuck knows where? Even if he doesn't get elected in the near future at least something is being built and argued beyond the narrow career interests of a few jobsworths. The civil service establishment seem worried enough, going by their undemocratic 'confused and frail' meddling in the Telegraph. I suggest that is more alarming then a poll dip for the Labour leadership. And it's not so much about Jeremy Corbyn in particular, is it? We know that the media and political establishment is hostile to e.g. the Labour party. As is a large section and demographic of the country. So what?
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Being behind in satisfaction polls at this stage is like your team losing pre-season friendlies. You’d like it to win every game, but it’s inconsequential.
But can Corbyn galvanise a poll bounce at the next election as he did last time?
But can Corbyn galvanise a poll bounce at the next election as he did last time?
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
The polls since the EU elections continue to prove that no one knows WTF will happen.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
There will be some who will go for the strongest non-Tory party, so the Lib Dems out-polling Labour may be a danger for them if it persists.
I think this has arisen from the local elections where they emerged with the appearance of a party with significant support, even if a lot of the support on that occasion was a transient protest vote (which might not be so transient on reflection). Looking plausible now in numeric terms.
I know of people who should have known better that voted for them in the EU poll as they’d been convinced by the bullshit adverts on Facebook that this was a way of preventing Brexit Party candidates getting elected (Labour were not recommended in these ads due to their compromise position). I’m beginning to think that campaign might not have been funded by someone that was anti-brexit as it’s been effective at dividing the parties to the left of the tories. Depends if a tactical anti-Tory vote is pushed at the next election, whenever that may be, as plenty of Tory seats vulnerable to a yellow surge. Also whether some kind of Tory/Brexit Party stitch-up emerges, there will be some coming back to the fold with Johnson in charge so they could easily snub Farage, it’d politically useful to have someone more extreme/cranky than you to make your party look reasonable.
I think this has arisen from the local elections where they emerged with the appearance of a party with significant support, even if a lot of the support on that occasion was a transient protest vote (which might not be so transient on reflection). Looking plausible now in numeric terms.
I know of people who should have known better that voted for them in the EU poll as they’d been convinced by the bullshit adverts on Facebook that this was a way of preventing Brexit Party candidates getting elected (Labour were not recommended in these ads due to their compromise position). I’m beginning to think that campaign might not have been funded by someone that was anti-brexit as it’s been effective at dividing the parties to the left of the tories. Depends if a tactical anti-Tory vote is pushed at the next election, whenever that may be, as plenty of Tory seats vulnerable to a yellow surge. Also whether some kind of Tory/Brexit Party stitch-up emerges, there will be some coming back to the fold with Johnson in charge so they could easily snub Farage, it’d politically useful to have someone more extreme/cranky than you to make your party look reasonable.
Johnson is the leader Labour explicitly want to be up against - worth a look at Stephen Bush's latest in the Statesman: Corbyn’s unlikely last hope: Boris Johnson
"They believe that Sedwill is particularly opposed to the idea that a lifelong civil libertarian who would doubtless seek to upend decades of foreign and security policy consensus could soon be in Downing Street."
What consensus do these mandarins think exists? That a former imperial power, tear-stained and drunk in the corner and bitching about how it's everyone else's fault, has a rational approach to security? What nonsense. The actions of the British state have consistently reduced security at home and abroad.
What consensus do these mandarins think exists? That a former imperial power, tear-stained and drunk in the corner and bitching about how it's everyone else's fault, has a rational approach to security? What nonsense. The actions of the British state have consistently reduced security at home and abroad.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
They need to do that in terms of having an individual to target (Johnson no doubt), but also Brexit. There's been much discussion on here as to whether their cautious, say very little approach has gone on too long (along with the dangers of coming down on one side or the other). But as to where we are now, all I can detect is that Labour are opposed to No Deal. It's not much to inspire the voters.
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
Corbyn, McDonnel and Abbot are just career jobsworths.
They have achieved fuck all of note in their decades in parliament until they landed in charge of the party by accident. Since then they have dithered and frittered away anything resembling public support beyond the core Labour vote. They face one of the most incompetent and unpopular governments in modern history and still get trounced in the polling by them.
They are however the perfect group for the loons and fanatics of Urban 75 to support. People on Urban hate the large majority of the UK population with a passion and often expresses murderous desires towards people with different political views to you.
A dithering thick cunt with no traction beyond a very narrow part of the population? Its your dream leader of the Labour party. Anyone who could be liked by the average person would be hated by you clowns.
Have fun, this is as relevant as you will ever be.
This isn't true. Yougov & Ipsos don't have Labour ahead, everyone else does.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Corbyn, McDonnel and Abbot are just career jobsworths.
They have achieved fuck all of note in their decades in parliament until they landed in charge of the party by accident. Since then they have dithered and frittered away anything resembling public support beyond the core Labour vote. They face one of the most incompetent and unpopular governments in modern history and still get trounced in the polling by them.
They are however the perfect group for the loons and fanatics of Urban 75 to support. People on Urban hate the large majority of the UK population with a passion and often expresses murderous desires towards people with different political views to you.
A dithering thick cunt with no traction beyond a very narrow part of the population? Its your dream leader of the Labour party. Anyone who could be liked by the average person would be hated by you clowns.
Have fun, this is as relevant as you will ever be.
You started well. I'd agree with your first sentence or two.
...but then you seem to lose your grip and descend into some weird bitter rant.
Ah well
Humberto
Well-Known Member
Corbyn, McDonnel and Abbot are just career jobsworths.
They have achieved fuck all of note in their decades in parliament until they landed in charge of the party by accident. Since then they have dithered and frittered away anything resembling public support beyond the core Labour vote. They face one of the most incompetent and unpopular governments in modern history and still get trounced in the polling by them.
They are however the perfect group for the loons and fanatics of Urban 75 to support. People on Urban hate the large majority of the UK population with a passion and often expresses murderous desires towards people with different political views to you.
A dithering thick cunt with no traction beyond a very narrow part of the population? Its your dream leader of the Labour party. Anyone who could be liked by the average person would be hated by you clowns.
Have fun, this is as relevant as you will ever be.
A careerist jobsworth who was on the backbenches since the 80s? I think its great to have some mild social democracy on offer. Not sure if we are going to have a useful conversation if you are starting from the premise that I am a 'clown' who hates everyone though.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
The problem is that Tory votes are definitely on loan to the BP. There is talk of an electoral pact even. Their hatred of Corbyn unites them.
Labour appears to be haemorrhaging support that it may have more of a struggle to get back. Those it has lost aren’t keen on Corbyn either.
Some of the ones who are keen on him are a liability.
That seems to be a popular opinion atm, but I'm not sure what anyone is basing it on other than the reckons of some hyperpartisan political commentators. Surely if there's one thing the recent poll bump for the Lib Dems demonstrates it's that even the most morbid political projects can make startling gains with the right messaging right now.
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
The SNP are mild social democracy and they have completely wiped the floor with Labour in Scotland.
The problem, the real problem that is going to hit like a fucking freight train when a general election is called in a few months, is that the noise around Labour, not just a few select comments buy Corbyn but the whole sound scape of Momentum, Jo Brand, Stewart Lee, The Guardian and every other prominent "left of center" voice is their braying, condescending contempt for everyone who is not part of the smug inner group of Russel Group educated, foodie luvie, remainer, hipper than thou cunts.
If you cannot talk to and about people who have different ideas and value to yourself on some issues like their opinions matter and are substantial but you disagree with them then fuck the fuck off out of politics. "Gammon", "Patriarchy", "White Privilege" and a dozen other fuckwit terms. How many middle aged white guys who are struggling to get by in towns like Worksop or Wigan really feel like they are some kind of uber privileged class compared to some non white woman writing for £80k a year for the Guardian?
I come on to Urban and its full of cunts giving it the big one about throwing acid over Brexiters, killing tories or hanging bookies. Its so infantile and dumb.
You wont understand this I am wasting my time. Politics for you is a recreational act of self validation. Its public masturbation. Knock yourself out, the Brexit chaos monkey, Boris, will be along shortly to pick up his rewards.
got to wonder why really.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Yeah the dominance of the SNP is defo due to offering 'mild social democracy' not because of decades of labour neglect, years of new labour, and the brilliant political decision to run a cynical and bitter no campaign in league with the tories
Humberto
Well-Known Member
Fez909
toilet expert
If it's not Worksop Man, it doesn't count. Labour are doomed!!111Those Peterborough Labour voters sipping champagne in their ivory towers.
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