Parents gather outside Birmingham school to protest against gay teacher

[mojo pixy]

You failed to explain what punishments you would impose for their faith

I said belief is fine, just keep it to your self. For the rest, there are real-world precedents. Have a read around, compare historical punishments for apostasy, heresy, blasphemy, with say punishments in France or the Soviet Union or China for various religious crimes.

 

[Don Troooomp]

Is this some sort of joke? A child's jape? What on earth is wrong with you?

Where is it standard?
I gather it isn't part of the national curriculum at the moment, but some want it to be, however, some schools that have attempted this in Manchester are also facing problems.

 

[Don Troooomp]

I still can't believe some here are advocating religious people be punished for showing their faith.
That stupidly dangerous idea is way too nazi for my tastes, and I'm absolutely amazed their bigotry is applauded by others.
Jesus fucking whatever, the thread is about stopping bigotry against one group, but the same against others is being actively discussed and encouraged.
I'm honestly shocked anyone would even consider that shit

 

[Don Troooomp]

I said belief is fine, just keep it to your self. For the rest, there are real-world precedents. Have a read around, compare historical punishments for apostasy, heresy, blasphemy, with say punishments in France or the Soviet Union or China for various religious crimes.

You said

I would make it illegal for the religious to proselytize in public or display religious symbols in public place

s - How would you punish the criminals your law would create?

or have you realised you're a bigot and are trying to back out?

 

[butchersapron]

I'm going off to go up Glastonbury tor then for a few pints in a beer garden listening to the football. I suggest you all do the same/similar. Not don though - he has reading on the Syrian revolution (and many other things) to get on with.

 

[tim]

Oh ffs. Clutch those pearls, go on!

I suspect you are alluding to the following Biblical passage:

Matthew 7:6
¶ Give ye not that which is holy to dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they tread them under their feet, and turning again, all to rent you.

This is inconsistent given your secular iconoclastic desire to purge public life of religious images and references. I think the following in an apposite response:

Matthew 7:5 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
5 Hypocrite, first cast out that beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

 

[mojo pixy]

How would you punish the criminals your law would create?

or have you realised you're a bigot and are trying to back out?

Happy to wear the label 'bigot' in this case, religion has had it too good for too long. It's a memetic virus that humanity could do with a cure for. I'll think on punishments (should be fun!), but meanwhile let me get on with helping these vulnerable adults have a nice weekend. Bye.

 

[tim]

and that changes what?

It's all to do with rhetorical nuance. Something that quite possibly changes very little for you.

 

[Don Troooomp]

Happy to wear the label 'bigot' in this case, religion has had it too good for too long. It's a memetic virus that humanity could do with a cure for

OMG - Now religion is a disease - didn't some twats think the same thing about being gay a hundred years ago?
FUCK! talk about going backwards

 

[tim]

Happy to wear the label 'bigot' in this case, religion has had it too good for too long. It's a memetic virus that humanity could do with a cure for. I'll think on punishments (should be fun!), but meanwhile let me get on with helping these vulnerable adults have a nice weekend. Bye.

I think your making a cryptoreliguous Dawkinian leap of faith there.


The word meme is a shortening (modeled on gene) of mimeme (from Ancient Greek μίμημαpronounced [míːmɛːma] mīmēma, "imitated thing", from μιμεῖσθαιmimeisthai, "to imitate", from μῖμοςmimos, "mime")[15] coined by British evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkinsin The Selfish Gene (1976)[11][16] as a concept for discussion of evolutionaryprinciples in explaining the spread of ideas and cultural phenomena. Examples of memes given in the book included melodies, catchphrases, fashion, and the technology of building arches.

 

[danny la rouge]

I'm going off to go up Glastonbury tor then for a few pints in a beer garden listening to the football. I suggest you all do the same/similar. Not don though - he has reading on the Syrian revolution (and many other things) to get on with.

Enjoy your day. My younger daughter is home and my older daughter is coming back tomorrow. We’ve all got Monday off and plan to spend it outdoors. Life is good.

 

[Sue]

Enjoy your day. My younger daughter is home and my older daughter is coming back tomorrow. We’ve all got Monday off and plan to spend it outdoors. Life is good.

Have fun rolling your eggs.

 

[danny la rouge]

Have fun rolling your eggs.

Everything’s a double entendre.

 

[Sue]

Everything’s a double entendre.

I'm ashamed of you, danny la rouge.

 

[mojo pixy]

OMG - Now religion is a disease - didn't some twats think the same thing about being gay a hundred years ago?
FUCK! talk about going backwards

...because homosexuality and religion are totally comparable things

 

[Don Troooomp]

...because homosexuality and religion are totally comparable things

I see you're trying to deflect.
What punishments would you hand out to people displaying their religion in public, and why do you feel criminalising someone for their thoughts is acceptable?

 

[SpookyFrank]

I see you're trying to deflect.
What punishments would you hand out to people displaying their religion in public, and why do you feel criminalising someone for their thoughts is acceptable?

And do you still beat your wife?

A virus is not, in and of itself, a disease. It is a self-replicating organic vector which transfers information, often information which corrupts or overrides valid information in the host organism. Any disease is either a result of the bad information or the suppression of good information. So a virus is a pretty damn good analogy for a religion.

 

[Don Troooomp]

Have fun rolling your eggs.

Openly celebrating a religious event - Watch out for mojo pixy or you might be arrested.
Still, he won't understand as my post will have fallen on stony ground - Oh, Jesus, I'm next for using a biblical quote.
Oh, shit, I said, "Jesus", a double sentence for me.

The very idea of persecuting someone for their religious beliefs is middle ages at best, but at least the poster seems to have realised they're being a silly cunt and is backing away from it.

 

[Don Troooomp]

And do you still beat your wife?

Hang on, your best argument is a insult suggesting I hit the lady I love?
Fucking hell, you're a moron, and a nasty one at that.

 

[Treacle Toes]

OMG - Now religion is a disease - didn't some twats think the same thing about being gay a hundred years ago?
FUCK! talk about going backwards

I can't believe you wrote this and have missed the most obvious point here.

Why on earth are you pretending that that is the belief of 100 years ago? Many of the ''twats' you are blanket defending in this 'religous freedom at all costs" crusade still do think that way hence them campaigning against it being acknowledged in school.

That is just one aspect of how homophobic religious beliefs continue to manifest.

That is so obviously key to this thread, are you deliberately ignoring it?

 

[Don Troooomp]

I'm leaving this thread as I can't stand bigoted twats. Yes, the Muslim community does a lot I dislike, but I refuse to accept racism or religious bigotry in exactly the same way I refuse to accept homophobia as reasonable or acceptable in any way.
Frankly, I don't want to to see it as it makes me puke.

 

[Treacle Toes]

But you are okay with religious people being homophobic and using their religious beliefs as leverage to promote their homophobia. Because any push back against them doing that is punishing them. Right, okay.

 

[mojo pixy]

...at least the poster seems to have realised they're being a silly cunt and is backing away from it.

nope, not backing away at all. hth

 

[danny la rouge]

I'm leaving this thread as I can't stand bigoted twats.

It’s very thoughtful of you to remove one of them.

 

[scifisam]

I still can't believe some here are advocating religious people be punished for showing their faith.
That stupidly dangerous idea is way too nazi for my tastes, and I'm absolutely amazed their bigotry is applauded by others.
Jesus fucking whatever, the thread is about stopping bigotry against one group, but the same against others is being actively discussed and encouraged.
I'm honestly shocked anyone would even consider that shit

Well, one person is, sort of, and they're not being applauded. You're making the rest up in your head. Like the way you've decided that kids being told that some kids have two parents of the same gender is the same as them being told about sex.

 

[likesfish]

Norfolk a suitable place to corral the god bothered round them all up they will bound to get on as they all belive in god

Oh wait

 

[mojo pixy]

So Don Troooomp has pissed off after all. A simple thank you will suffice

 

[Serge Forward]

Well it's nice the div has pissed off but some of the stuff you were coming out with was rank... unless you were on a wind up.

 

[mojo pixy]

Religion is rank. I was raised in a religion and I think it's poisonous. The sooner humanity divests itself of it, the better.

There was an element of wind up, but my feelings on the matter are pretty strong and I wouldn't dream of apologizing for them.

 

[Serge Forward]

No disagreement there. If that was all you'd been saying earlier, I'd have no issue.