This one just cracks me up. Most of us work in full-on authoritarian workplace where we have to do what we're told or risk having no home or enough to eat. Our everyday behaviour is shaped by a thousand laws we barely think about because they're embedded in our thinking. You're already trained in compliance dickwads. This is not the place to make a stand.
She's a self employed child minder. Not for much longer I reckon.
Am ditching this now. Work (Covid related) is really full on and staff are getting colds etcI have gig tickets for December but looking at cases, deaths and the feckless, reactive cunt government am pretty sure I won't be goingcan't see the SSE Wembley being masked up and distanced at a James / Happy Mondays gig.
Have a family meal thing the week after and don't want time off work.
I had to do this recently too and it worked out ok - I had a test Monday morning and then isolated til the procedure on Wednesday morning. Mr Thora could work from home so the only slight stress was finding somewhere for the kids to stay for three days so they could still go to school!
Yeah, if it's something like missing my choir concert, I might want to move, but after that there aren't many slots that don't knock something out before Xmas.
To add insult to injury, in order to get quarantine hotel he had to agree to something saying he had 'chosen to travel to a Red List country'. I find it astonishing that they don't have an option to say that you were in a country that went on the red list after you'd travelled there - there was literally no public awareness of omicron at all on the day he left!
Yeah, if it's something like missing my choir concert, I might want to move, but after that there aren't many slots that don't knock something out before Xmas.
My brother-in-law (see other threads) has made it onto the plane back from Malawi having spend ££££ on rebooking a ticket back sooner and now £2.5k on quarantine hotel and having cut short his trip to see his dying friend over there.
I think you're right, BUT...given the horribly inept way that this government has handled things so far, it's not a great surprise that any of the imperfections inherent in the system (suddenly having to change international traffic flows due to the appearance of a new variant, for example
) will tend to look like just another example of their incompetence, even if on this occasion, it's not entirely, or even slightly, down to that incompetence.
He's a strong healthy lad so I would imagine little to no personal risk but he does have plenty of elderly relatives. FiL is in great shape for his age but he is nearly 90. I don't know why he has refused the vax possibly just teenage stubborness rather than any crackpot notions. He does tend to listen to his aunts (and indeed pretty much anyone) rather than his parents.
Yeah, I do see your point, and I'm an advocate for scientific consensus being followed, and I've chosen to risk it admittedly. That said, given there was never previously isolation until to your day 2 PCR came back and they'd moved from PCR to LFT, I'd considered the worst case would be back to as it was, which was a day 2 PCR and isolate if needed. LFTs instead of PCRs came into effect on 24th October, I booked our trip a month later, last week, and the rules change to PCR plus isolation tomorrow.
I think you're right, BUT...given the horribly inept way that this government has handled things so far, it's not a great surprise that any of the imperfections inherent in the system (suddenly having to change international traffic flows due to the appearance of a new variant, for example
FWIW, even though there is not much different that they could have done at this point, I am very pessimistic that they will break with tradition and suddenly handle this new challenge effectively, or well.
Yep. I think it's not helped by the (natural) tendency for people to seek "normal", and draw a straight line from where we are to where they want it to be, hence jumping onto planes and going on holiday just as soon as they are "allowed" to.I think whilst it’s politically attractive to blame the government for everything, the reality is that nobody is doing much better. For example, we have Harry moaning on this thread about sudden changes, and Cloo on another one complaining that the reaction isn’t fast enough
At the end of the day, in the current climate, anyone booking overseas travel, wherever they are and wherever they going, has to accept that there are enormous risks that your trip will be cancelled or you might get stuck somewhere. Things will be like that for quite a while.
I think whilst it’s politically attractive to blame the government for everything, the reality is that nobody is doing much better. For example, we have Harry moaning on this thread about sudden changes, and Cloo on another one complaining that the reaction isn’t fast enough
At the end of the day, in the current climate, anyone booking overseas travel, wherever they are and wherever they going, has to accept that there are enormous risks that your trip will be cancelled or you might get stuck somewhere. Things will be like that for quite a while.
