Opinion: "The End of Meat Is Here" - NY Times

[Yuwipi Woman]

Why's that not a reason to eat meat?
Is the use of slave labour on veg farms in Spain a reason not to eat any veg?

Thats a reason to better regulate capitalism, not change diet.

Where I live the ag industry is hand and glove with the government. Asking them to change the laws, isn't really a practical way to have any short-term impact when they literally have the meat packing industry writing laws, they hand off to state government to pass. In the past, they've sponsored "ag gag" laws, which didn't pass only because there were enough Democrats to filibuster. That's no longer the case, since the Republicans now have a bullet proof majority. So, a year from now, you won't even be able to criticize the industry without risking jail.

 

[Funky_monks]

Where I live the ag industry is hand and glove with the government. Asking them to change the laws, isn't really a practical way to have any short-term impact when they literally have the meat packing industry writing laws, they hand off to state government to pass. In the past, they've sponsored "ag gag" laws, which didn't pass only because there were enough Democrats to filibuster. That's no longer the case, since the Republicans now have a bullet proof majority. So, a year from now, you won't even be able to criticize the industry without risking jail.

That's crops and livestock - what does it have to do with meat specifically?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

That's crops and livestock - what does it have to do with meat specifically?

Iowa has such a law and it's been applied exclusively to people protesting the meat industry.

In Nebraska, we grow very little salad veg. We grow some apples, watermelons, and hops, which are usually family-owned operations, rather than corporate. We do grow some cereal crops, but those are mostly used for animal feed or ethanol.

 

[Funky_monks]

Seems that I'm not the only scientist who thinks livestock systems are very important for food security, nutrition and the environment.

450 odd of us are cranks and industry shills?

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[Pickman's model]

Seems that I'm not the only scientist who thinks livestock systems are very important for food security, nutrition and the environment.

450 odd of us are cranks and industry shills?

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450 odd scientists might easily harbour a crank or industry shill or two among them

 

[Funky_monks]

450 odd scientists might easily harbour a crank or industry shill or two among them

Yes but it's unlikely that all 450 signatories are, is it?

And given the size of the scientific academic community, 450 is quite a lot.

 

[JimW]

It's only a small cohort of US consumers who consume a disproportionate proportion of beef, study says: How a mere 12% of Americans eat half the nation's beef, creating significant health and environmental impacts The young not so keen, apparently.

 

[NoXion]

Is beef really cheap in the US? Because with my income and prices here in the UK, there's no way I can afford to eat it every day, even if I wanted to. Fresh cuts of beef are by far the most expensive kind of meat, and even minced beef has become rather pricy unless you get the really cheap and nasty stuff, half of which dissolves into grease when you cook it.

 

[Pickman's model]

I just suspect this Karl Masks character is banned returning user whose previous Schlick was to push keto pseudoscience on vegan threads. Not that he’s pushed ketoism this time but the combination of brain dead analysis and boring as fuck prose are the hallmarks of this worthless cunt.

very true